Octatrack - What am I missing when saving a Project?

“Something else I will try is to always leave the first 8 flex and static slots empty. This way when you start a new bank all tracks should be emty (I think octa auto asigns track 1 to slot1 and so on). I will report back on this theory.”

Interesting because I realised that the first 8 slots of Flex and Statics slots are not affected by PURGE SAMPLES option. So you’re theory can be reported soon!

Hmmm (strokes beard) interesting.
Give me a few days. I’ll get back to you.

For info, on the Cf card, the .work files are the auto-save files and the .strd (stored?) are the saved files. The project.strd and project.work files are identical when you just saved the project.

In these files I succeeded to copy a list of samples from another project to merge it.
It may be the same principle on OctaEdit.

You need to save your Parts.

I do save parts. My guess is user error.
I think I may have messed with the pool.

And leaving the first 8 slots blank works! But I cant test Purge samples for you.

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I know this is an old thread, but just a quick Q regarding this and Mkii. Is hitting [FUNC] + Proj ( Save ) the same as SYNC TO CARD or are they different? I’m hesitant to update to 1.31 until I know for sure. Thanks yall

“Sync to card” is like on Windows/Linux the “safely remove device” or “eject” functionality. It makes sure everything got really written to the card (and isn’t still in any internal write buffer).

So “No” it is in no way a kind of save functionality, but should be performed after you saved something and want to remove the card.

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wow thats good to know! So I’ve had the OT since June, so I should go back to every project and sync to card (and back up on comp) before putting in my 64gb sandisk?

No. It’s just a temporary thing immediately after writing. To speed up the writing process almost every device utilizes some kind of internal buffer (in RAM). It may tell you it has completed a save even if there is still data left in this buffer which may be transferred to the card asynchronously later.

Under normal instances this is no problem, but when you want to remove the card the “sync to card” feature is required as safe guard (it examines the buffer to check if everything got really transfered to the card).

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ahhhh gotcha, so couldn’t hurt to do it anyway. Thanks mate

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Maybe someone said this before but make sure you save your recordings to the CF card before you turn off your machine or else when you turn it back on the recordings will be gone , everything else seems to stay in the RAM for me when I turn my unit back on. Hope this helps someone I lost a lot of recording data when I first got this machine.

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How do you save a part? :wink:

p53

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Thank you! Rusty! Is this the answer to saving Patterns with different Machine settings and related samples?
I’m sooo at a loss…I’ve made several interesting patterns with different machines and samples assigned to tracks, every time I save a new pattern, the previous pattern inherits the last sample slot settings and I lose everything, it is driving me nuts. I’ve programmed, Akai, Kurzweil…Ableton, Sunhouse, KAT, Mandala…soo many obscure instruments, but this?!? I also, understand the AKeys, and aRYTM…just don’t get why this is so difficult.

Remember that those settings are not per-pattern but per-part and parts are linked to, not part of the patterns. If you change settings in a part that is also used by a previous pattern then those changes will affect that pattern too.

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Patterns have no knowledge of Machine Settings and/or Samples.

Patterns have a reference to a Part.

Octatrack%20Parts

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OK, I will study that part of the manual1 Thank you!!

Are you in LA by any chance?

OK FINALLY, I think I get it!! Merlin strikes again! PARTS! Save 4 Parts, have 4 different configurations of machines, Sounds, Scenes. Patterns only feed the parts w Trig and parameter lock info! On the way…

Ak

You got it! The logical approach is to use 4 patterns per part, that way they’re equally divided. But obviously the flexibility is there to distribute them however you want. Parts can be changed instantly so good for mixing up a pattern. Also a standard live trick: save part, mess up knobs, reload part.