Octatrack Tips & Tricks (OT Tips)

Did you notice that recorder slot samples remain sliced after you’ve sliced them once - regardless of what you record into them?

But be careful, when you change the tempo you must delete all the slices and slice it one more time and it will be in time again. :slight_smile:

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Tired of your reverb and delay tails getting cut off when you mute a track?

Instead of muting, go to the AMP page and minimize VOL quickly by holding FUNC while tweaking it to the left. VOL will snap to -64, instantly cutting off the sample, but the tails will remain.

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Instead of muting, go to the AMP page and minimize VOL quickly by holding FUNC while tweaking it to the left. VOL will snap to -64, instantly cutting off the sample, but the tails will remain.

or lock the xvols to scenes and switch them on and off by assigning them to a and b buttons and pressing the buttons in combo with function (instead of sliding)

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…or set an LFO on it

lots of "or"s…one of the great things about the OT :slight_smile:

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i didn’t realize while manually recording into a flex machine you could switch inputs to record into one combined file! (…for some reason i thought it started recording again from the beginning.)

so you could hold your track button hit midi to sample an internal source you’ve chosen, then track+ab, then track +cd and they’d all show up in the audio file.

cool to combine it with pre-slicing as mentioned above. i’ve also been messing with routing the cue outs back in, so you can cut between multiple internal tracks. or you can choose an internal track that resamples other tracks…

you could also choose a thru track as the internal track to sample from and link scenes to ab and cd levels, so you can cut between recording ab + cd straight or being processed on the thru track.

i’m going to have to mess with it more. i wonder what happens if you switch parts while recording? haha, dunno why i haven’t tried that before.

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I think it will blow up !

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As many OT users ask for Overbridge compatibility for the OT to be able to multi-track their patterns in a DAW, here’s a different solution.

For multi-tracking I use the resampling capabilities of the OT…

Set each track recorder to its own internal track (T1, T2, T3…)
Set the recording length to the length of your pattern (for instance 64 steps)
Add a one-shot recording trigger on each track.
I have a standard session with the first 16 patterns setup like this, and I use it as a template to bounce all tracks. Recording quality is set to 24-bits.

Now, if you want to bounce down all tracks of a pattern in one go, hit YES to activate all the recorder trigs and play your pattern. The recorders capture all eight tracks seperately, including fader movements.

Then open the recorder window of one track and hit function+edit.
Choose save all recordings and save all seperate tracks to the CF card.

Then import the tracks to your DAW via USB.

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I appreciate that this is a creative and clever solution, but there are still a lot of problems with it to me. I personally don’t want to perform a track pattern by pattern. For instance there are times where a pattern repeats with different fader gestures, or when fader gestures cross bar lines at the end of the pattern. That’s hard to replicate when you have to perform each repeat separately. Moreover, in normal performance, reverb and decay tails that trail over from pattern to pattern. Not to mention sample release times extending across the bar line into the next pattern. You lose all of this working a pattern at a time. For my uses, it’s just not going to sound natural. That said, I hope this is useful for some people!
To be clear, I’ve made music just recording the OT’s stereo outs. I’ll live and work with it. I don’t expect Overbridge-like functionality from the OT, as Elektron never promised it. All of that said, I would LIKE it, maybe in some far-off mk2.

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I’m hoping for a hardware upgrade like they did when the MD UW+drive came out.

I appreciate that this is a creative and clever solution, but there are still a lot of problems with it to me. I personally don’t want to perform a track pattern by pattern. For instance there are times where a pattern repeats with different fader gestures, or when fader gestures cross bar lines at the end of the pattern. That’s hard to replicate when you have to perform each repeat separately. Moreover, in normal performance, reverb and decay tails that trail over from pattern to pattern. Not to mention sample release times extending across the bar line into the next pattern. You lose all of this working a pattern at a time. For my uses, it’s just not going to sound natural. That said, I hope this is useful for some people!
To be clear, I’ve made music just recording the OT’s stereo outs. I’ll live and work with it. I don’t expect Overbridge-like functionality from the OT, as Elektron never promised it. All of that said, I would LIKE it, maybe in some far-off mk2.[/quote]
Yes, I understand. It depends on your workflow ofcourse.
Personally I like to do all kind of edits later on in my DAW, so I see these single track exports more as working material rather than finished patterns.
With this method I can export many pattern variations just by hitting Yes and save all recordings, and then I pick the best pieces.
It would be awesome if there was a way to auto-save the recorder buffers after each loop or to record directly to the CF card to capture entire arrangements and longer jams.

Sebastian

. . . or to record directly to the CF card to capture entire arrangements and longer jams. . . .

This would be very nice.

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I’m intrigued and conceptually grasping what this might be, but something isn’t quite right in my understanding, the video and extensive comments are not simple and prescriptive enough, especially wrt patterns, what about mixer settings and starting the thru machine when the track is not playing - any chance you could distill this to the simplest example and help the penny drop ; - )

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So…

Essentially the concept is to use Plays Free to sequence some automations.

Mixer settings are: DIR=0

Then the main actions rely on Patterns.

You can have normal patterns with triggered tracks sequences - OR - the PlaysFree.

With PlaysFree you can have trigless-trigs sequence where you p-lock parameters (which ones is up to you).

About playing a not-playing Track…I use trigs 9-16.
Once it’s playing then I can use trigs 1-8 for starting corresponding PlaysFree Track.

One example could be the following:

One pattern with all normal. Track 7 is a THRU sequenced.
Pattern2 has the PlaysFree option for T7 so, once you switch to this Pattern from the previous, THRU is still playing (if REL is INF) but not its sequence.
So using trig 7 will play it…it can be an automation on the Filter, a Volume stutter.
It should be worth mentioning that ONE2 would be a good starting point for PlaysFree. I use HOLD but it brings a side-effect, you have to raise finger at a “default” state (trig) where the sound is not affected by the sequence.

This tip anyway is not that useful…its just for fun if you have spare Patterns…
Imagine 15 chained patterns with only sequenced p-locks.
You can of course achieve this with normal action Pattern, but this way you can decide when to let the automation to start.

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yeah, i’ve tried again, but i didn’t try changing patterns, clearly that’s key, i got confused by having to play the Thru machine, which doesn’t stop when the thru track sequenced steps are done playing, i noticed that it would latch to the exit state, but i didn’t know where the efficiency of the method might be, i like the idea of hands on control, so the neighbour tracks is just an addition and not part of intended tip, it just seemed that others followed and i didn’t grasp what was being done, or at least it wasn’t obvious to me with the plocks on the tracks that i elected to use, given that exit mode aspect, i think using a slow track, that might be a nice way to jump to a virtual track scene, if you can release the trig at the right step, i’ll investigate further, i’m still not sure i follow, but that’s why the OT is so intriguing - i also noticed your comments on setting up capture of longer than 64 step flex recordings, i thought i’d nailed it, but the buffer kept filling, i may explore parts to capture using PU and bring back to a Flex, it does seem rather limiting to be constrained to such small passages, especially when the machine can do it manually for longer !! - it ought to be so easy to add into that RLEN menu ?!!

fwiw, here’s what i’ve got, may be different, it’s certainly not groundbreaking but it’s useful for a single button press thru pseudo scene fade >

1 pattern, 1 track, a thru, plays free, hold/direct, track can be tempo multiplied to taste or lengthened/shortened - let’s stick with 1x 16step

the crucial thing is to try this first and vary to taste
put your ‘virtual’ scene as a plock on trig 1, plock the vanilla neutral state on step 16, now add a slide to 1

this means you can have a regular uninterrupted thru going, by either pressing Tx on the rightmost set of 8 trigs in (non record track play mode) or by pressing Tx+Play (likewise Tx+Stop to kill Thru input sound)

Now when you trig Tx on the leftmost set of 8 trigs, you play the automation from extreme through to neutral in an automated sweep, so it always exits in a neutral state, if that’s not fun enough, then plock some other steps (don’t include a slide to vanilla) and release the Track Trig (8 on left) at the scene of your liking, so in theory you can have 64 scenes to release up on, and this setting will latch until the track is played again

i’m not sure if this is what you were after, but it’s fun enough to me, quite pleased actually, for an otherwise leave-it-be thru track, so no need for extra patterns/tracks, but full control of latching/sliding fx when the mood suits, plus scenes are still available, on top ! :wink: #OTtip :thup:

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please avantronica can you expand a bit on the Slide on step 1?

It’s handy if you want to control the end state of the track play through, ie if there are no slides when you lift your finger the plock last encounterd will latch, whereas if you have a slide going at the point you lift from your hold, it will slide to its conclusion, even if the track is not fully played. So in my example it always returns you to the plocked vanilla state on the slide destination of trig 16, but you can have multiple slides and lift earlier than the last one and lock in a plocked state (early lift, e.g. briefly Tap track) or hold long enough to get to last slide and it will slide to a conclusion with your finger off the track trig, alternatively don’t use the slides and you can have plocked states upon release, season to taste, had a LOT of fun with this, quite different from scenes, plus you don’t need to use hold, if you want, one2 is fun, possibly plays once too

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Ah! …so you put one trig on step 1 and another on step 16, that’s it ?

I was struggling because I imagined a 16/16 full of trigs…eheheheh

That’s it, Yep, that bit that begins ‘the crucial thing’ :wink:
It doesn’t need to slide either as long as it passes 16. (To reset the plocking), nor is 16 significant, just the end of the track for a trivial example (one is the least useful trig mode for this usage)
Just to illustrate the point in a simple manner, it’s possible to conclude a slide even though the track has stopped trigging, and indeed has not (and need not) reached the vanilla trig, it’s almost like a custom lfo shape or envelope that you can manually start and control the exit state of

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That’s it, Yep, that bit that begins ‘the crucial thing’ :wink:
It doesn’t need to slide either as long as it passes 16. (To reset the plocking), nor is 16 significant, just the end of the track for a trivial example (one is the least useful trig mode for this usage)
Just to illustrate the point in a simple manner, it’s possible to conclude a slide even though the track has stopped trigging, and indeed has not (and need not) reached the vanilla trig, it’s almost like a custom lfo shape or envelope that you can manually start and control the exit state of[/quote]
yesssss! =)