Octatrack Templates

As long as the projects share the same global settings and are referencing samples only from the global AUDIO folder and subfolders you should be able to copy the bankXX.strd and bankXX.work files around in between project folders like you want.

@sezare56: any additional tips?

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@tnussb And you don’t have any conflicts with any sample slots between projects…

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Ah yes, of course, the slots. I’ll try to stick to fixed slot ranges for banks.

So it’s easy to merge the slot lists from multiple project.strd files without conflicts. It’s quite a hack, but works for me.

You’re missing a couple of things; but like you say, quite a hack and works for you.

Never tried, but what about Octatrack’s file manager and pen&paper for the samples?

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This is very clever. Fantastic!

Pen & paper for 256 slots and their path…

Honestly i don’t understand they did not implement a Move Bank within the Card Tools menu. I actually never use this Card Tools apart maybe to rename a corrupted project…

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Yeah, it’s not ideal, but once in while…why not?
Maybe use the ‘collect samples’ command (which copies all used samples into a project folder) first for projects that should be merged, now the samples are not scattered across the entire audiopool anymore… guess that would make the whole process easier.

There might be a reason why it’s not possible, but yeah, bummer.

I usually try to organize my projects from the start in a way that I’ll have to move stuff as little as possible.

No need for pen & paper. The project files are simply text containing info blocks about each used slot like this:

[SAMPLE]
TYPE=FLEX
SLOT=001
PATH=…/AUDIO/0_OWN/R-Click.wav
BPMx24=2400
TSMODE=2
LOOPMODE=0
GAIN=48
TRIGQUANTIZATION=-1
[/SAMPLE]

The real drawback of this copying around of bank files is that you are losing other sample slot relevant informations like slice details, properties etc.pp. which are stored in the markers file. Sorrily the markers file is a binary file which isn’t that easy to edit like the project file.

So it’s in no way a carefree alternative for an editor like OctaEdit, but requires quite some cleanup/reconstruction work afterwards.

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Ah, that´s nifty! I never had to merge projects, when I prepare for live, I usually just copy a few patterns into a new project and do the rest by hand, I want to prepare stuff for live in my daw and go over everything twice with a fine-tooth comb anyways, so…

Still as @tnussb said, you’d miss some information.

Plus you’d have to avoid similar slot numbers and all… no really, that’s unlikely you won’t have bad surprises after Hourssssss of job.

I have great hopes that Octaedit 2 shall see the day of light thanks to @Rusty to free our chains and let us do music.
We have enough workarounds to carry about on the music side itself :wink:

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Is there any eta on the new octaedit?

Not really. The latest info is here:

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No fixed date atm. Like @tnussb said, best to refer to the “official” thread.

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On the topic of Ableton/Octatrack templates, I made this this AM if anybody wants to use it.

Sometimes I find song mode/Ableton cooperation to be difficult. So I’m trying to get a template where Ableton is the song mode and I can leave the OT in regular mode.

It’s 256 clips with bank and pattern info in them. This should also work with the other devices, but for devices that only go up to Bank H, you can ignore the second half of the file.

OT Blank Set Project.zip (202.2 KB)

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@PAPANOONGAKU, do you use bank CC messages to load and differenciate banks AH vs IP ? :pl:

In the Ableton MIDI clip you set the bank to 1 and the pgrm to 1-128 for A-H
Set bank to 2 and pgrm to 1-128 for I-P

In that Ableton file are 256 midi clips with the banks and pgrm already set. In a new Ableton file you can just use the browser to drag just the bank in. But that’s very Ableton specific.