Hello everyone. I have an odd question/problem that I can’t seem to wrap my head around, so I thought I would ask for help. I am running several synths into the SM10, which has both an EFX (post fader) bus and a MON (pre fader) bus. I am trying to find a workaround to having the EFX bus have both the dry and wet signal. I’d like the EFX bus to be routed to a separate effects chain that is also 100% wet. I’m hoping that the OT is the missing link, but thus far can’t make it happen. I currently have the OT’s Cue Out routed to the SM10, so I can send that where I want. I have the Main out of the SM10 running to AB on the OT, but that’s where the problem comes in. In doing so, the dry signal from anything going to EFX is being sent to the OT. Thus far, the only option I have come up with is to not use the Main out of the SM10. In doing so, that prevents me from running anything dry to the OT (Rytm for example). I feel like between the OT, the SM10, and y’all, there has to be a way to make it work. Thanks for your time and help.
Hello. I have OT and SM10, but I don’t understand what do you want to achieve…
@darenager also have them iirc…
Sezare - You always have answers. Put simply, a way to have the EFX loop from the SM10 be 100% wet. I know it cannot be done by itself, but I am hoping that the guru’s like you, @darenager, or anyone else, can come up with a creative way to incorporate the Octatrack to achieve the same outcome. Now in detail…I would like to be able to run synth 1 to effects loop 1 and have it be 100% wet. That’s easily achieved, buy using the MON bus. I would like to have synth 2 run to effects loop 2 and have it be 100% wet. There is where my problem arises. If I use the EFX bus, then the SM10 always has the dry signal in its main outs. If I bypass the main outs of the SM10 entirely, I am no longer able to run anything dry to the Octatrack. In my case the Rytm. Ideally, I would like to be able to send effects loop 1, effects loop 2, or the SM10 main outs to the OT’s AB/CD (only two of those at a time) for sampling, etc. I’m willing to use the OT versus the SM10 as my main out, if that helps. Let me know what you think.
Also, for my enlightenment, how are you running your setup? Are you running the SM10 into the OT and the OT as your main outs? Or, are you running the OT into the SM10 and using the SM10 main outs? Thanks again.
What about Mix B routing?
I didn’t use SM10 much. The goal is to use MIX B switch for OT recordings (or RC 505 I had).
Never used it. I thought it was only accessible from the headphones. I’ll look into that and test tomorrow. As always, thank you Sezare.
Yes. I wish it could have jack LR outputs.
So you also use MON send (pre) ?
MON send is fantastic. From an audio quality perspective, would you advise me to use the OT into the SM10 and out from there? Or use the SM10 to feed the OT and out from there? Purely from an audio quality perspective. I tend to overthink this stuff…lol.
MON is mono, MIX B is stereo, so I’d rather use MIX B (with an Y cable).
You can use both, for 2 different fx bus.
@fifty1fifty Edit : Concerning SM10 MAIN, if you want OT fx on it, you can plug it in OT, if you want it dry, no need to. You can plug OT in SM10.
To clarify, I use MON from the rear, which is stereo and works gloriously. Depending on what you say about the audio quality question, MIXB might be exactly what I’m looking for. I never thought about using the headphone jack. Which is also why I finally gave up and decided to ask…lol.
Yep. MON from the front is mono. MON from the rear is stereo.
I’m surprised. I would have thought the opposite…
Btw it’s good news if MON can be used stereo.
So apparently yes, rear sends are stereo. Good news, thanks for the information! 
Not obvious from serigraphy.
Time to buy Y cables…
The SM10 really is a fantastic piece of kit. Now if MIXB works for me, we’ll both be golden. I assume I will no longer be able to use headphones? Any workaround for that?
Use MON output. 
I assume you mean from the front, knowing I am using the one in the back, which is no fair…lol. I gave you stereo and you’re giving me mono.
I was kidding for MON ouput.
So you mean using headphones as MAIN monitor ? 
Maybe you can invert MIX B and MAIN roles. Listen to MIX B with headphones, and use MAIN as 100% wet fx…
Looking forward to testing tomorrow. I may be forced to route the SM10 into the OT, just for the headphone jack. Thanks again Sezare.
I’m not sure I follow the signal flow you are trying to achieve?
Do you have spare channels in 1-8 on the SM10? If so you can do a few flexible things by routing say the fx send out to external fx and then back into say channel 8 and then send that out to the mon send.
That way if you have the monitor send going to OT you can send dry from the SM10 channels and/or wet fx return via channel 8.
But yeah, that kinda makes the main outs and channels 9&10 on the SM10 unused.
Again not quite sure I understand what you’re trying to achieve, but I recently figured out similar routing to the above with SM10 and 1010 Blackbox and a bunch of external fx pedals.
I’m able to resample out of the BB through the mixer and fx and back into BB, and likewise have synths coming into the mixer and able to send any combo of dry/wet into the BB.