Octatrack MKII max record length issue

Greetings --wish to sample a 20 min track off a vinyl LP. Max record length i get out of Static or Flex recorder is 40 something seconds----any workarounds to set record length to long times with OT MK2

Thanks in advance
David

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you turn on dynamic recorder in the settings, i believe under memory. than you can record for a very long time

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You are limited by the totalt RAM of 85.5 mb even if you work with the setting for the buffers.

You always record to a buffer (RAM) and then save to CF card. No direct recording to card.

85.5 mb would give you about 8 minutes of stereo recording at 44.1/16 bit.

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Thanks perfect----wanted to sample this series as one sample per side so in effect a big sample chain to play with----will use Akai MPC-X then playback as a static in Octatrack is the easiest solution I think

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Without samples in Ram :
16 bits : 8m28s (508s)
24 bits : 5m39s (339s)

(You can check this available time in Memory Config, and in Recording Setup 1)

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Without samples in Ram :
16 bits : 8m28s (508s)
24 bits : 5m39s (339s)

hi is this per track (x8) or altogether?

thanks.

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altogether :slight_smile:

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Unless those samples are evenly spaced on the record, it’s going to be a lot of work turning them into usable chains. I would record into a DAW, sort into categories, space evenly and bounce down as various different chains, with the name and number of samples in the title. That way you can browse, load up into the OT, hit ‘slice to X grid’ and you’re good to go.

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damn ok thanks. unfortunately the octatrack is hideously underpowered for what i want. big shame as it is extremely capable in other areas. seems very short sighted.

a cheap looper offers more recording time.

hope the ocatrack gets a bigger brother that doesn’t need to rely on a DAW.

MPC live, toriaz, octatrack. they all fall flat on their faces in one significant area or another… such a shame. guess i’m stuck clicking mouses. shouldn’t be this way if you are paying over 1000 and a DAW is a fraction of that.

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Yeah. And it should bring you your morning coffee.

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Sounds like you need to adjust your expectations a bit. What would you even need so much recording time for? The OT can already play back samples of unlimited length from the CF card. Even if you wanted to use it to record vocal takes for an entire song, 8 minutes is ample time for that, and you could bounce to the card, play it, and record another 8 minute track alongside that.

What’s your usage scenario?

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The recording capacities of the Octatrack DPS are very well known and well advertised, for the last 7 or 8 years :slight_smile:

I am sorry that you are disappointed. Please search the forums for previous discussions on the topic.

the recording abilities aren’t well known. there are a good few ‘max recording length’ type threads and all with convoluted answers. seem the octatrack is a little too complicated for its own good.

when playing back samples, does that mean you can’t do anything with them? i want to be able to record long sustained chords with unbroken movement and manipulate them.

maybe i could deal with 8 tracks, pity about having to sacrifice some tracks for master etc but the midi i think is gimped. a sort of fake polyphony if i understand? the digitakt was 4 note but had to be the same length and i think this is the same.

otherwise this thing looks SO good in many other ways.

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Have you read the manual?

no are you saying the midi isn’t fake 4 note polyphony?

I’m saying all of your questions could be answered with a look at the manual. You come across as someone more willing to shit on the machine and jump to conclusions rather than learning what it can do with an open mind, which makes people less willing to help you.

The OT has a lot of issues but also a lot of workarounds.

The midi sequencer has 4 voice poly but all notes have to start and end at the same time. It’s designed for stabs and chords rather than recording complex performances. Best to think of it as a mono sequencer with some bonuses. However it’s easy to get complex stuff going just by stacking up more of the 8 tracks - you can point them all at the same channel if you want. You can send LFOs and plocks through midi but you can’t modify ccs via the crossfader due to bandwidth limitations.

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And you can still manipulate tracks plenty even if they’re streaming from the card, the only limitation is that if you try to quickly juggle slices with the fader you’ll get some silence while the card catches up to your movements.

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I had a looper, RC 505 with amazing record length possibilities :
3 hours max for a recording, 5 tracks, read / recording on a microSD card, up to 32 Go or more !
I kept the Octatrack.

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if i shit on it it is because it is frustrating since the other areas of the octatracks are so amazing. same-length 4 note poly won’t cut it for what i want to do unfortunately. seems like they could have done better than that for the MKII refresh since it was about 8 years since the original.

guess it was just made with a different use in mind. don’t tell me i need to buy an mpc live! :slightly_frowning_face:

@sezare56 yes i have been eyeballing that exact device. might be best to keep it simple…

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It sounds to me as though you are looking for an MPC in the OT. It’ll never match what an MPC does best. But the other side of the coin is true in that an MPC (or DAW) isn’t capable of half the shit the OT excels at.

Long samples will be loaded into static machines that have limited capabilities vs flex machines.