Octatrack MIDI routing trouble! 😪

Uncle_Gordon · February 15, 2018, 10:12pm

Hello, people! I want to ask you a question about MIDI routing on Octatrack.

I discovered one problem and I cannot find a proper solution to solve it.

The question is that I’m using Octatrack with Korg Nanokontrol (to set audio level) and with Roland SH-101 via CV/Gate converter (sending notes from OT to 101).

Everything is great when I’m using SH with OT only or Nanokontrol with OT.

But all together… Gosh… It make some glitchy stuff when sending notes to SH, especially.

I discovered that when I’m using OT’s fader, for example, it blocks MIDI from OT to SH. And I don’t know - what else should I do? I spent WEEKS of combinating settings, and just stucked.

Probably I need some advices from vice people like you to make proper MIDI routing on my Octatrack.

This is when I’m trying to make it work all together (just barely pushed Pattern button on OT and sequence failed):

sezare56 · February 15, 2018, 10:30pm

If you use a Midi to Cv thing, maybe it receives too much data.
Disable CC send from audio tracks.
Midi > Control > CC OUT = INT

Disable Prog Change
Midi > Sync > PROG CH SEND unchecked.

How everything is plugged ?
I don’t know why the Nano would change your setup behavior. Do use use a Usb to midi thing ?

Uncle_Gordon · February 15, 2018, 10:29pm

Already done. I just don’t know what to do. I’m preparing live set. And seems like my gear lives with it’s own life. Part of the day everything was great but then it started glitching (the main problem is sending notes to SH when everything working together).

Sometimes it works okay and sometimes - not. I think trouble is in routing…

Settings:

I FEEL LIKE SOMEONE SPELLED RANDOM LFO ON GLOBAL MIDI SETTINGS. I don’t like the result that it starting glitching from time to time…

sezare56 · February 15, 2018, 10:39pm

Did you try with a new project?
Only Nano > Usb to midi > Ot > Midi to CV > SH ?
Check midi lfos on CCs, arp.
What are SH and midi tracks channels ?
Midi routing?
Several parts with different midi track channels ?

JuanSOLO · February 15, 2018, 10:39pm

Under the SET/DNB menu

Turn all those TRIG CH’s off

Uncle_Gordon · February 15, 2018, 10:54pm

Yeah USB to MIDI, you right. Sure, I tried to make a new project, yes. Global MIDI settings - seems like they live with it’s own life, lol (or maybe some part of setup, I dunno). Sometimes everything is Ok, but sometimes - not (like just right now)

Track for SH101 is usually #16.

Huh? I don’t get it… Sorry

Then I’ll lose my korg Nanokontrol functions.

I tried to play again all together, it was okay for 10 mins and then CV/Gate converter was like “fuck off” and stopped recieving MIDI (I have a light indicator on it which shows me Midi flow activity). I ain’t even touched anything and were just typing a message on my laptop while sequence was playing

Computer-Guy-Facepalm

glooms · February 15, 2018, 10:54pm

Can i hear that DNB set when you get MIDI figured out ?

JuanSOLO · February 15, 2018, 10:55pm

I may be wrong here, the TRIG CH settings are not what you are looking for, thats for setting TRIGs from an external device on audio tracks.
The OT’s midi params per track (midi or audio) , such as CC’s are fixed and in the manual.
You’d set your nanoKey to respond to those.

Uncle_Gordon · February 15, 2018, 11:01pm

Ha-ha, yeah! There’s a secret link to very early & raw version

Uncle_Gordon · February 15, 2018, 11:06pm

I tried to switch them off and my Nanokontrol is disabled now

Yes, there’s a manager for Nanokontrol where I can tweak some settings like Midi channels or put some CC numbers on different Nanokontrol knobs, sliders, buttons etc

JuanSOLO · February 15, 2018, 11:07pm

Exactly, now set your nano to the specific CC’s in the manual for your Audio tracks.

Like I said, I may be wrong here.
I just got home so I’ll check s few things and post back

glooms · February 15, 2018, 11:13pm

Followed you as glooms. Now I want the OT even more !

Uncle_Gordon · February 15, 2018, 11:17pm

A friend of mine from Poland borrowed me his saved settings for Nanokontrol. So I was always using them. They were pretty good.

The point is that my CV/Gate converter is not recieving MIDI notes from time to time for some reason.

I did even sent it back to a customer to fix it, and guy said it’s all fine. With my PC it works good perfect. But with f****** Octatrack… !!

JuanSOLO · February 15, 2018, 11:18pm

OK, so I was wrong.
Lets go back a few.
Can you give details on what/how you are connecting everything.
For example, how does the Nano get to the OT.
What kind of converter are you using?
What is the midi/cable routing, specifically?

sezare56 · February 15, 2018, 11:22pm

Don’t use the same channel as auto channel. (if 16)

Uncle_Gordon · February 15, 2018, 11:25pm

I’m using this little beauty for OT+Nanokontrol

This is how it’s connected to Octatrack

Uncle_Gordon · February 15, 2018, 11:32pm

I’ll try this advice with current MIDI settings then…

sezare56 · February 15, 2018, 11:35pm

Is CC DIRECT CONNECT checked ?

Uncle_Gordon · February 15, 2018, 11:38pm

Well earlier today I tried my setup with and without CC DIRECT CONNECT. For now it was disabled. I enabled it right now, taking into account all the answers.

My CV/Gate still keeps quite. It work sometimes, sometimes it keeps quite and not recieving anything.

With Ableton it works just perfect.

JuanSOLO · February 15, 2018, 11:42pm

CC Direct connect is for your params updating on the OT following something like synth params, and vice versa.
If you had a synt going into the OT, and the OT out to the synth.
You’d use Direct connect so the konb on your synth would update the OT’s midi params, and vice versa.
If I were you I’d turn it off, it’s not needed here.
AND, if we’re trouble shooting, start from the begging, simple.