Octatrack as Microcosm?

Totally lost in translation… :no_mouth:

Quite disrespectful. For someone criticizing people you could at least phrase correctly so we can understand you.

all im saying the microcosm is a cheaters box for people who want to sound like autechre with a preset. thats why they all use the same mosaic preset.

octatrack users are the opposite, and will bend over backwards in an attempt at the same outcome.

i think it’s a funny premise.
it’s gonna be ok.

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Hello, is this done with the octatrack only? I´d really love to do something similar.
Sadly, I dont get my head around it, though.

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Guitar straight in, processed and recorded by Octatrack.

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This is so beautiful.
Are you constantly recording both recorders?
I have a good understanding of the Octatrack as a big Digitakt.
I used it as a stem player and arranger help for live gigs with (partly) pre-produce material.
What I tried over the last 2 weeks is to record some tracks but did not really succeed.

I know that recorders live on tracks in peaceful harmony with machines.
I guess I want Flex machines for what I want to do (Put in some guitar notes and let them be mangled and effected).

Shall I use a different recorder to record on other than the track that shall play the audio or can I use the same track with a Flex-machine assigned to it´s recording buffer.
I would want to use one-shot-trigs to not keep erasing everything that I have recorded before.
So I need a play trig micro timed an the same track.
Do these trigs bite each other?

As I need something to play along I would have some basic drums from my Digitakt to keep me in time.
I will have to arm the one-shot-recorder-trig on the recorder right? (will have to do this with a midi pedal because guitar/no hands free).

Thank you very much for sharing this wonderful sounds.

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Thanks ! :content:

More details in that thread.
I wouldn’t be able to explain, I’d have to redo it to understand what I did !
I am busy with my brand new Microcosm atm. :wink:

Destructive looping with Octatrack - #45 by sezare56

And here I was thinking that getting a TV would make me not want an OT.

// maybe the TV can do this too…

Not yet, not soon !
Not sure if it will.

Only MD and OT can control recorders with their sequencer at Elektron. And they can play their recordings on the fly.

(DT2 can sync recording start with Play)

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It seems like you can send a track to multiple send tracks. Each of those could be set up with different delays and other effects, then send that to a bus. Maybe it can be approximated that way. I’ll have to experiment.

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And to 4 busses with 2 insert fx…master fx.
With Degrader / lofi / freeze / pitch you can get interesting results for sure.

But for now you can’t manipulate audio the same way for reverse, grains enveloppes…looper with +/-2 octaves and reverse, sequenced retrig…

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Without dynamic recording buffers, there will be some time-based effects and micro-looping tricks that will not be possible. But you should be able to do plenty of interesting stuff with the delays and pitch shifting. Feel free to piggyback on this thread if you find something cool (or start a new thread for Tonverk FX processing).

When I eventually get a TV, I’ll be plugging in my guitar to see what mayhem I can make happen

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Concerning buffers TV has delays and there is a Freeze parameter in Degrader along with a Drop (interrupt), SRR, BR. So it has enough to mimic certain MC presets…

Very different approach compared to OT of course.

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Thank´s for the link and funny you don´t remember. Easing my soul as you seem to be an archetype Octatrack sage.
You helped me a lot some time ago to at least use my Octatrack for more basic things.
Thank´s again for being inspiring! :slight_smile:

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You ended up going for the real thing huh? How does it compare to the OT methods you were using?

The MC is ready to use, +/-2 octaves looper with reverse allows to record sound textures quickly.
I like to record things quantized.
I wish tempo could match looper duration. Tap tempo isn’t practical as you need to disable looper.

I don’t like all fx presets. Some are triggered above a threshold so it lacks input level. Lacks feedback control. Some fx happen after a consequent delay…

OT has more possibilities with various fx, sample manipulation, resampling with feedback. Possible to make your own sequences, to playback directly with pitch down, or after a step for pitch up / reverse / short loops. Globally more control, but it can take time to set, and it is not flexible if you want to change rec/playback sequences.

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The MC has definitely issues with volumes as the output is not the same for every FX.
Also there’s no ternary / dotted tempo which is quite ridiculous for a delay pedal.

If I let it on for too long (e.g. an hour) the unit freezes. So in live conditions, I do the soundcheck then i go on stage and the MC is frozen sometimes in middle of the set so i have to unplug / replug. Is it seriously a huge cost to add a fu#@ing power button? What the heck is this trend of not having power button?

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Thank you! Very insightful as an OT user who hasn’t tried the microcosm but I’ve certainly admired it from afar.

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Not solving bugs…
Once for no apparent reason I had huge feedback, using headphones…wtf…
Otherwise I think it lacks feedback possibilities (on purpose)…

Yes, I’ve experienced the occasional instance of feedback or freeze with the MC. I don’t know what causes it beyond what @Blasted_pingin said, leaving it on for extended stretches or repeatedly spinning the preset dial.

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