Love that 1st demo mate! Very melodic
thanks
Loved this from beginning to end @circuitghost
You have a very unique style! Did you make this an EP eventually?
Thank you means a lot, coming from you
No, I’m not quite coming up with enough tracks that are coherent and good enough yet. Though with the release of my other EP just yesterday, which is another venture with the blackbox, I have more space to do something with the Rhythm now.
It’ll likely end up with something, but I’m just not sure yet.
I still got to use resampling but 8 tracks is alright
Yeah, so many of the fun samplers are monophonic and use only mono samples. Just give us the polyphonic stereo samples people!
Alternatively:
“Just give us renegade firmware for all the other samplers, Pajen!”
it’s a conspiracy, why else would you even look at a sampler and say to everyone in the room, I don’t know what we want but here’s what we don’t want…
slicing
enough project ram
enough storage memory
polyphony
stereo capability
uh Ted… Ted! , “what!”… what the hell else do we not want in the sampler?
Ted: uhhh what about sampling, can we take that out?
Best Ted Talk yet.
The Rhythm has slicing. I like to use it when I’m figuring out what I want to do with a sample. But I usually wind up parameter locking the start points in keyboard mode like on my Digitakt. It’s a lot more flexible. I really like that the Rhythm can do things either way.
My only slicing related gripe is that you can’t duplicate samples from the rec page.
The rest of these, yeah, I’d like to take them up with Ted.
On the Rhythm, the storage in particular is kind of weird to me. I’ve got an 8 gb micro SD card. As far as I can tell, it can only hold 32 packs, which comes out to about 1 gb of storage used. With the huge caveat that I know not even a single thing about designing these machines, I’ve got to say that this doesn’t make much sense to me.
But my old Sampletrak works sort of the same way. I’ve got a 16 MB smart media card for it. I think it would read a bigger card if I used one. But it wouldn’t store more than 16 MB. And whether or not I’ve got a memory card, I can only save as much per project as what’ll fit in the flash memory.
That said, my Sampletrak, ancient smart media cards and all, can sample in stereo. It can also sample in 3 different sample rates and do honest to goodness aliasing. It would be cool to see that kind of thing become more common again.
Also Ted:
Or we can give them all of that, but only if we also
Make it really physically large and unportable
Really a computer inside, complete with boot up time and shutdown
Put lots of unremovable preset content on it - maybe a U2 album too?
An unresponsive touchscreen that has to be used for most operations
Internet connectivity
Don’t allow it to sync midi properly
Not be able to stream large samples
I’m thinking all of the people who wrote sample code in stereo must have retired. Only explanation. Even the MPC60 was updated with code that would let it record the same sample twice and split into stereo. Nowadays we live in CODE/RAM/CPU heaven, and they all want to sell us is limited machines. Maybe we can blame the success of the Digitakt for the current run of mono samplers?
I think the stereo devs ended up in the same place as those who found out light bulbs don’t need to have an expiry date. They had to be destroyed before they contained the others.
The only reason I have yet to purchase a Circuit Rhythm is because it is mono. I have, and seem to keep collecting these damn mono samplers. I wake up in the middle of the night and there is always a Model:Samples, or Tracker, or what-the-fuck-ever staring me in the face. I can’t escape it. Fuck your panning modulation bullshit, just give us what we want.
For me, stereo sampling isn’t much of an issue. I really only sample in mono.
The thing that I won’t buy is another sampler that only has mono tracks. I think it’s particularly annoying because both of the samplers that I like and use the most, the Digitakt and the Rhythm, have synth twins with polyphonic tracks. So on both devices, we already have the UI for polyphonic tracks ready to go. And a good amount of users if not most users are already familiar with it. Hell, the Digitakt’s MIDI tracks are already polyphonic.
I just want the Digitakt to get the Digitone’s voice management system, along with some goodies like the scales, the arp, velocity modulation. That and the multimap business so I’d have a reason to use sounds on the Digitakt.
I’m not as clear as what I want to demand from Novation because I don’t own a Circuit Tracks.
Am I asking for too much, Ted?
Dumb question, but while gear surfing I noticed this debate cropping up a lot and some pretty cool workarounds on the limits of the Circuit for various features.
In terms of a “make the most” setup using just one of these devices, would it be fair to say that you could pair the Tracks with something like Koala Sampler to extend the Tracks sampling capability, by using that app to edit, chop and load samples into the Tracks for playback. Or could you take that further by doing what other smart folks have done and map the MIDI to Koala Sampler using one of the MIDI tracks, then bringing the audio back into the tracks like another synth to process?
That may not meet all needs (and it’s also not exactly screen free.) But I did wonder if that’s a limited but expanded sampling option that might work. I hear lots of people fall in between these two devices, and theoretically a bit extra sampling grunt could work for someone who wants an all-round option with synth tracks, polyphony etc etc.
Would that Koala thing work or does the Tracks prevent it in some way?
I’ve mapped Koala for my Rhythm before. It’s super tedious but you need to do it if you want to control the fx over MIDI. I needed to reinstall Koala a little while back so I haven’t done this with the latest version, but now it looks like you can also map things like sample start and tone for each pad. And that’s pretty cool.
It worked really well when I did it. In this example, I’ve got the drums and bass coming from the Rhythm. And I’ve got a sample coming from Koala. I’m also sequencing the fx the Rhythm on track 8.
I’m not sure how the MIDI tracks work on the Tracks, but on the Rhythm you can include ccs out in a sequence if you’re sending MIDI over USB. But the MIDI out can only send ccs via knob twists. I’ve been told it’s a bandwidth thing.
Anyway, I think the set up you’ve got in mind will work just fine.
That’s a really cool setup. Are you resampling the audio of the Koala back into the Rhythm or is it going to an interface?
Saying all that, I just remembered how most iOS devices now don’t have a headphone jack to take the audio back out to take advantage of the Tracks sound . Obviously, this could be done via a USB cable or two. That said, I suspect if sample mangling is not specifically a big part of the workflow, loading them into the track via packs would work for most without a nest of wires to play the samples live.
I’m just taking the headphone out from my phone to the audio in on my Rhythm. I’m also not sampling anything in Koala. Just loading samples into it. And yeah, I’ve just got an Android phone. I’m not sure what you’d need to make that work on an Apple device.