Here’s a MIDI notes chart to get equivalent of Hertz in Notes names.
I was struggling to figure it out so i thought i’d share it here.
As the scale mode is somewhat opaque and anyway not retained in the stored kit, setting pitches manually is the only way if you don?t want to relaunch a pattern on an external device and have the bad surprise of notes being reset on the ND. I think they should have implemented a way to see actual notes names and to be able to recall user scales (i know the device has been left on the side of the road by Clavia…).
Feel free to remove/merge the topic if it already exists (i did not find).
Nord Drum 3p here.
A big downside is that there’s no fine tuning, i find myself with some notes almost a quarter tone out of the tempered tuning, very harsh.
PS If you set the note for each drum/sound to any C (24, 36, 48, 60), etc. then if you play it chromatically with a MIDI controller or sequence it externally, it will be in tune with the rest of your gear (apart from when timbre-shaping takes it a little out of tune microtonally as mentioned above).
I’ve seen that some synths are made that way so that the tuning is only tempered when playing in C. Thing is that i don’t want to sequence it, it was to play on the pads.
Also whenever i sequence it from external gear it is in tune with the notes i send so far.
I am a newbie and self proclaimed MIDIOT and yet I have figured some things out. I am using it with my Digitakt and have assigned the notes (60, 62, 64, 65, 67, 68)that correspond to the ND3p’s Individual Midii channels 1-6 in the DT’s TRIG page. So first note is C5 (60).
THEN I press MIDI A through MIDI 14 and set each to Channel 10 NOT 1-6.
On ND3 it is set to Local On, Global 10 and the Channels are set 1-6.
It all sounds in tune!!! I’ve been slogging through this for literally 2+ entire days and now my machines are talking nicely and in tune! YAY!
I want to sequence the ND with an Octatrack where MIDI note numbers aren’t displayed (unless i miss something) but are actual notes names (the way it should be for godshake!!). That means i would have constantly to look at the Midi chart? I don’t really get this thing of midi notes numbers. I have to say. They had to add a new parameter
So if i have to send a C3 always on pad 1 of the ND, how am i supposed to change the pitch of the note?
I need to wrap my head around the Midi notes number and Global vs Track Midi channels.
I feel like in the tunnel where musicians using notes names are getting beaten by computer people who wanna make music with notes defined on a range from 0 to 127.
According my MIDI notes chart, the note 60 is a C3, not a C5.
Found this on Clavia’s forum, it might help confused people like me.
the individual MIDI channels are mainly* there to control sound parameters of the 3p, it’s one direction only. The 3p sends MIDI notes on the ‘global’ MIDI channel, a note is coupled with a drum channel (drum sound) you can set which note is coupled to which drum channel, your drum pattern in the sequencer should therefore comprise of these 6 notes only. If the 3p receives these notes on the same (global) MIDI channel the corresponding drum channels will be triggered. *When you’re sending MIDI notes on the individual MIDI channels, the note will determine the pitch of the corresponding drum sound, and the MIDI channel determines which drum channel is addressed.
Yes. This exactly. I don’t know how the Octatrack is set up, but what I was doing on the Digitakt was assigning each MIDI trig button (they are named MIDI A, MIDI B etc) from 1-6 to correspond with the ND3 drum pad channels. So, in the Digitakt SRC page I assigned trig MIDI A to Midi channel 1, MIDI B to channel 2 and so forth. I then went to the TRG page and assigned the notes (60, 62, 64…)to correspond to each of the MIDI trigs (A-F in this case) that I just assigned channels to. Everything sounded pitched up like a half step or more. When I went back and instead assigned each of the MIDI trigs (A-F) to Midi channel 10, which is the ND3’s Global Channel, all the notes were in key and worked.
Recording I have to have Local off on my ND3 so that it doesn’t echo back to itself, but once I recorded a sequence, I could go back during playback and turn it back on to scroll through the different kits.
Now I’m at the stage where I am assigning CC values!
Holy shit I haven’t found this info anywhere. I’m sure people who are MIDI literate understand the manuals, but to me there were major gaps in the explanations.
Let me know if I can help because I want everyone to understand how to do this!
For now i would like to make use of the pads as well (since you can’t buy the ND without pads, let’s use them )
Maybe that would be why some ghost notes occur although it happens also when sequencers are stopped. Might be the threshold on the ND as well, i dunno.
Also i think it is strange to have sound of a sequence on the OT being played on the DN although the track is muted.
So far what i gathered from my experiments, as i changed a bit the MIDI chain:
OT Out > DN In > DN Thru > Microcosm In > Microcosm Thru > Nord Drum 3p.
In any case the ND has to be at the end of the chain since it doesn’t have a THRU
On the OT i can sequence the ND normally and chromatically/tempered via the ND respective pads MIDI channels (1/2/3/4). I need to use the global channel (10) though to change the sounds of the pads.
That’s mad, it would be so much more convenient to be able to use the tracks Midi Channels to change the pad’s sounds. Instead of that we have to burn one track just for that and it forces us to use pads sounds within the same kit only.
You don’t always need to switch the Local Control on and off, when you use a MIDI processing device (or a combination of splitters, filters and mergers). You just need to split the CC messages from the Note messages and send the CC messages back to the ND3
Playing the ND3 engine via its global channels will play each sound via its defined note number and ONLY this note. When you play one single sound via its own channel (1-6 in your case) then it plays every note you’re sending from your sequencer (monophonic).
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