this is my first post ever on any forum, so please have patience and mercy. I’m noob, and my english is not very best.
Goal is to achive live setup and eventually be able to record jamms on computer, but for now the recording part is not important.
My gear is: Digitakt, 1010 Blackbox (on the way), Volca Beats, Microkorg, some guitar pedals and guitar.
I’m also getting Kenton Midi Thru so i can MIDI sequence Blackbox, Volca and Microkorg on the Digitakt.
I have Focusrite 6i6, and i plan to buy mixer and monitors.
Is there a way to have all connected to the mixer so i can record/sample microkorg and guitar into the Blackbox without having to unplug guitar or synth every time i want to record it? Also if i have Digitakt running MIDI sequence of Microkorg or Volca Beats,
is there a way to record that MIDI sequance as audio file on to the Blacbox?
If someone could write or draw connecting scheme I would be grateful. Best regards, Filip
Do you have the midi side already sorted? If so, draw a diagram yourself and try to add the audio connections… if you upload it here many members will help you and if you do it yourself you will know, what your questions will be… and in the end you will master it
From DIGITAKT MIDI OUT to MIDI IN of KENTON MIDI THRU BOX;
FROM KENTON MIDI OUT to BLACKBOX, MICROKORG and VOLCA BEATS
Audio:
DIGITAKT (OUT) to MIXER channel IN
MICROKORG (OUT) to MIXER channel IN
VOLCA BEATS (OUT) to MIXER channel IN
GUITAR (OUT) MIXER channel IN
MIXER OUT -----> Monitors
This is the best i can do with my knowledge.
I was looking for mixer, and i found Yamaha MG 12XU, but looking at the specs i didn’t find Alt 3/4 bus. Then i found Behringer UFX1204 that have Alt 3/4 bus.
Still having troubles in understanding how would connections actually look like, especially on mixer with those bus options.
Thx you all for helping, really appreciate it, cheers
Think about the mixer as it has a second, assignable out. So you can send each input channel of the mixer not only to your main out, but also to this second out. (Even a combination, like Channel 1 and 3 yes, but not channel 2)
This second output of the mixer can be sent/connected to digitakt audio input to sample it.
So only additional physical connection would be this audio cable from mixer Alternative out to digitakt. To decide what channel gets sent to alternative out, just hit the button or turn the signal level knob for this bus/alternative out on the mixer…
Cool, that was one of my next questions. I saw GROUP OUT on Yamaha and was thinking is it the same as ALT 3/4 bus, now you have confirmed it. I’m beginning to get bigger picture, so thank you very much.
Don’t want to state the obvious but if you haven’t already I’d have a thorough read of the mixer manual first. Then look up the manuals for a few other mixers and read them. You’ll find them online as pdf files.
They’ll be full of examples of how to connect stuff and most have at least a block diagram showing the internal routing and signal flow. It’ll really help you to understand what you can do. For me the mixer is the real hub of my studio and I’ve always seen it as such. It’s where everything comes in and goes out and understanding how to get the most out if it for YOUR setup is vital IMO.
I agree with you. I started to read manual for yamaha mixer, i will do it also for other mixers. Thank you all for being kind and helpful, there will probably be more questions but i will do my best to research first
Ps it wasn’t a hit to do your research! Just meant that manuals can be a treasure trove of transferable knowledge, especially for something like a mixer as they all function in more or less the same way in terms of routing and bussing etc.
Don’t discount the ability to use you use Aux sends as another set of group outputs too
Ok, so with every post you guys write, i get new valuable informations. So aux sends and group out makes two sections in which i can group channels, that’s great. I guess that aux sends are also used to connect external effect pedals, that can be send to any channel? That’s something i would also like to use since i have some pedals. Cheers
Yup. Your Aux send control on each channel strip controls the amount of input signal passed to the Aux send output. The control can (on some desks) be either pre fader or post fader. Some desks have a combination of these. So if you imagine a basic desk with a pair of main outputs, a pair of sub outputs, a stereo aux send and a further mono aux send you’ve got 4 different output paths the signal can take from the desk. You’ve also got aux returns that sum into then main output buss too as well as monitor or tape returns on some desks. That bumps up the input count and its why you’ll often see desks described as having many more inputs at mixdown than seems possible from the number of channels. These are the reasons I think desks are really handy in a recording environment… that ability to flexibly route inputs to outputs and control the levels of their routing.
Regarding FX routing a classic use for something like a reverb would be to set the reverb unit to 100% wet, plug the aux send into the reverb input then you could either plug the reverb output into the aux return or even another input channel. Your aux send controls the amount of signal sent to the reverb unit and the aux return (or channel fader) controls the amput of effected signal coming back into the desk. One advantage of using a channel to return the wet reverb signal is the ability to use the EQ on the return channel to process the wet signal; just using the aux return means the signal is fed straight to the main buss with no means of controlling anything but the amount of wet signal returning. Make sense? Just don’t turn up the aux send knob on the return channel or else you’ll get a feedback loop!
If your desk has inserts on the channel strips then you can also use these for getting into and out of the desk. On most desks the channel signal will come into the input, be fed to the trim control then immediately hit the insert point. That uses a TRS jack with the ability to send the signal out and return it back to the same point on the channel. They’re good for inserting compressors and other dynamics where you want ‘inline’ processing and not ‘send’ processing but as I say, they can also be used to ‘send’ the input signals out to the inputs of a multitrack recorder for instance with its outputs being routed back to the ‘returns’, all with one insert cable per channel. I used to run a couple of Fostex HD recorders like this. The recorder get the ‘raw’ input signal which is the effectively returned to the input of the channel strips allowing you to EQ and control the levels of the recorded tracks. The bigger the desk, the more routing options generally speaking but from the smallest little line mixer to a 48ch console the same principles still apply.
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