just got a reply from Elektron support with the suggestion to downgrade to Overbridge 2.3.9 and it did help to resolve my issues on MacBook M1 Pro. I was also thinking that it’s an Apple problem since I get some audio stuttering on internal sound card during high memory pressure but the glitches were happening only with Ableton and Overbridge software running on an i7/32GB RAM. Anyways I’m happy that there is a progress in this case.
Well, scratch my previous reply. I have done more elaborate testing, and the pops & crackles are there, but not as prominent. Still not workable for a recording situation for any “professional” work, or something you’d like to publish.
But now that I’m aware of it and have started listening, I also hear the it outside of Ableton as well, so ut’s probably a M1/Apple issue in my case. Almost can’t believe this is a problem with the PRO series M1s - this must be the flagship for the creative side of the Apple customer base?
Can confirm that the older Overbridge version at the very least makes the problem a lot less evident for me on an M1 Pro machine.
Been able to try it on an M1 machine, and it works fine even with Overbridge 2.5.1 (in terms of there being no crackles/pops) so it does appear to be specific to M1 Pro/Max, in my experience.
I’m not sure what to do. I really need to finish this track! It’s arranged in song mode, but there’s no way it’ll make it through an entire 3 minutes without glitching.
I feel you, overbridge is useless for any serious work at the moment on my M1. You could get a simple audio interface to capture the outs. But if your work relies on processing or recording individual tracks through overbridge …
I may have just gotten lucky, but I took an hour break with the device powered down and Ableton closed. Then I came back, turned on the Syntakt, launched Ableton with a new project (just the Syntakt template) and it recorded fine.
I was going to see if switching to 48 KHz would make a difference, but maybe it’s not necessary.
Unfortunately the song isn’t done yet! Well, it basically is, but I haven’t nailed down the performance aspects. So now I’m going to program EVERYTHING including all the knob movements with song mode and see if I can’t get it to work again.
Bah, of course when it actually counts it doesn’t work. It started glitching after 2 minutes, I switched to 48, and then it started within the first minute.
I need the individual tracks and I really don’t want to record them separately over the line outs.
I’m heading down another path -I found this article:
And then started wondering about my USB hub… Sure enough it’s a USB 2.0 hub with 7 ports (all full). I did some quick tests by unplugging everything in that hub and I think the popping sounds are gone (only 10 minutes of testing mind you).
I’ve got a proper USB 3.0 hub coming, so I’ll test it with both my Syntakt and Digitakt connected through it and see if that fixes the issue… Keeping my fingers crossed, will advise.
Well, even though I have a new USB 3.0 hub, it still shows up in OSX as a USB 2.1 hub, not exactly sure why - I’m sure there are reasons, perhaps the Elektron boxes are only USB 2.1 devices?
I’ve done some listening with both the Digitakt and Syntakt plugged into the new USB hub and haven’t noticed any more audio glitches.
Maybe this will help others… I’ll be sure to report back if audio troubles return…
Same problem here, with Digitakt and Syntakt - MacBook Pro M1 Pro 16g
I hope new OB updates will fix it even if downgrading to 2.3.9 solved 99% of the problem
I stopped using Overbridge with the Syntakt in Ableton (on my MacBook Pro 16" M1) a while back due to having the same issues with stuttering audio, pops, glitches etc, but I fancied trying it again yesterday just to see if this had been rectified, and it’s even worse now with the latest update.
I’ve tried both the Caldigit Element hub and an Electron Overhub.
Ableton is now crashing when I click the spanner icon to show/hide plugin panel on the channel strip.
I don’t actually think I’ve EVER had Overbridge fully working over the years. It never worked for me properly with my Digitakt or Digitone, and I got that tired/bored/pissed off trying, that it made me sell both units at the time.
Having these noise/glitch/pop problems with the Syntakt and Analog Rytm on M1 Max and M2 Macs. Everything is on the latest version.
I’ve tried with various USB hubs. Overbridge, Caldigit, Anker.
The Apple directly connected to the USB-C port seems to be the best, but still glitchg sometimes. Seems like it happens often when I interact with Ableton. But hard to pinpoint a pattern.
2.5 years later and still getting audio crackles/drop outs/glitches using the Syntakt through Overbridge in Ableton.
running:
Mac M1 Pro 16GB ram, macOS Tahoe (v26.3.1), latest Overbridge 2.13.4, latest Syntakt OS 1.40, Ableton 12.3.7, RME digiface.
Ableton CPU at 15%, no difference at various buffer sizes in Ableton, nor changing the buffer safety margin in Overbridge control panel, nor trying different audio sample rates. Mac has about 90gb free space.
Tried three different powered USB hubs - Elektron Overhub, Caldigit Thunderbolt 4, and a RSHTECH 36W Powered USB C Hub. Happens across all.
Another interesting point… so I tested running the ST through my Tonverk, and out to my Ferrofish, but still triggering the ST through Overbridge and with the Syntakt channels muted in Ableton, I still get glitches.
I’m basically using these now synced via the external instrument in Ableton and that all runs perfect.
Did anyone have any luck with this? If not I’ll check back in another 2.5 years.
“I had this issue, but fixed it by setting my buffer size in Ableton to 128, and setting my plugin buffer size to 128 in the overbridge control panel, and keeping the buffer safety margin at 100.”
I tried exactly that, and tested on a looped kick drum and it ‘seems’ to work better yet there’s a subtle click directly after the transient. If I set both buffers both to 256, I still get more glitches. Soon as I go straight into the desk not routed through Ableton it’s normal.