Something aggressive might go well with mono riffs and the drum algo, I’m a sucker for Industrial techno. (Also own ACDGEN already.)
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This looks really cool!
Wish there was a DIY version, the price as it is now is quite steep, already punching in the class of Pyramid etc. price wise.
Selling Kits or PCB/Chip set could also unload a lot of work from you 
Just posted a new demo based on @thermionic’s idea for something more aggressive!
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$599 ?
hm, iPad + Mozaic is certainly cheaper… oh wait, i already paid for them.
I paid $15 or so ages back for ACDGen but (while many more algos obviously) boutique hardware is necessarily going to rise in value
For the work of one person, I think it’s fair.
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I’ve thought about offering kits but at this point is not very doable at this point, mostly because I can barely get enough parts for pre-built units. I might do it for other projects in the future tho!
In regards to the price, it’s mostly because it’s currently being hand-assembled in Brazil and getting components imported and parts manufactured (like the custom steel chassis and polycarbonate overlay) is very expansive at a small scale here, specially with the quality I’m going for.
I do hope I can reduce that price in the future if I manage to scale production and perhaps move to it a manufacturing facility.
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i absolutely don’t mind, just looking at it from my consumer’s perspective.
i always have a lot of interest to MIDI processing stuff, but on the other hand, i do my own – that’s my secret weapon. so, comparison is inevitable )
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I’m still in my honeymoon phase with it, for sure, but all I can say is that the NGEN is realy great fun!
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Thread starter here. I totally forgot about the NGEN 
After I forgot about the NGEN, other new shiny things caught my eye like the Torso T-1.
But now I got the Push 3 and preordered Live 12. So I’m holding off on buying new shinies until I get more clarity on how Push 3 will work with MIDI generative stuff that is part of Live 12.
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Same here. If Abelton and Push can take the Torso T1 off my GAS list, that would be great. I’ve heard that, so far, Live’s new midi tools aren’t controllable from the Push though, which is surprising. But maybe they will better integrate them with the Push in a future update? Hope so.
True for me as I am still on Live 11 and am content to let others beta test the hell out of Live 12.
So I am waiting for official Live 12 release. Then I’ll see what is actually accessible from Push 3 in controller mode and what isn’t. And then after that, evaluate the user experience for myself, including whatever bugs are around.
The main attractions for me to the T-1 are the user scale, quick results from just turning a couple of knobs, and CV outs for spontaneous jams with my Moog and KARP semi modulars.
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This little thing is very interesting. I’m always looking for midi processing tools.
Since few years the market begin to grow, but there is still so much things to create and develop.
Torso is nice, Hapax too. Cirklon is wonder. But this little thing is very pertinent and a real counter proposal.
Very serious and promising midi processing.
@icaroferre, i wish you lot of nice and new ideas and success in their hardware realisation. 
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This does seem to have nice potential for doing live stuff on the fly. I guess I do wish it were a bit larger with more knobs per function, though it appears to be laid out quite well
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It seems, and that’s what i like with it.
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How is your Push 3 generative MIDI journey going now that Ableton 12 is out?
Trying to talk myself out of an NGEN (or a Torso T-1.)
My impression so far of Push 3’s sequencer is it’s a similar experience to the Roland MC-707. You can record a realtime performance or enter notes as steps, but the end result is lit up pads indicating notes, scrolling up and down to see where the notes are in pitch, and navigating left/right to see where the notes are in relation to time.
There’s step probability as percentage, just like on MC-707.
I have not tried using the MIDI devices on Push 3 standalone yet. In theory they should be useful for generative stuff but I’m not one to broadcast claims and gear without direct experience. I’m still working with Push 3 Bible and that course emphasizes use of Push 3 in controller mode - mainly because it’s just way easier to download, then load up project files created in Bible for the lessons.
My slow progress on Push 3 is all on me - not because of faults found in Push 3 or Push 3 Bible. I’ve been devoting most of my music time to practicing guitar and piano playing
Please correct me if I’m wrong, but Live 12’s generative MIDI features don’t offer much in the way of live performance. This is because a.) it doesn’t make a lot of sense to generate a MIDI clip on the fly, and then play it, and b.) Push doesn’t have access to the various generation features.
What is super fucking awesome is the ability to use M4L devices to generate MIDI on the fly. IMO Sting in the best example of this; it sounds great, and it’s easy to modify its parameters using dummy clips.
I hope that someday soon we’ll see more random-yet-musical note generation devices in M4L that also play well with Push.
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I’m also under the impression that the Live 12 generative MIDI stuff is best suited for composing/production but I haven’t had enough experience with it to report anything useful.
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