A kitchen based activity is feminine in nature?
Come on man, are you telling me interest in synthesizers in particular is not mostly a male thing? Have you visited a music retail shop more than once in your life?
Donāt be a fool and do not put words in my mouth. I said the membership of said group appears to be 80% female, one can safely conclude this appears to me a mostly feminine interest or at minimum, the group itself is mostly female. That is obvious.
Also, Iām a man and I cook or wouldnāt be interested in canning, so about your premiseā¦
if the preamps consents, whereās the bad ?
more seriously, naming or humanizing objects / the question of fetishism / and the problem of sexism are, in my eyes, completely different things (which can be linked or overlap but not necessarily)
Agreed. Having fond thoughts of a thing and referring to it affectionately is not indicative of a psychosocial issue either.
Why is everyone talking like this? I donāt understand you all. Please exit this networked psychosis.
And itās not even just a āmasculineā thing
like fetishism (which is not necessarily synonymous with āviceā either )
and I say it all the more easily as I am the first to recognize all the faults of the human race, and of the violence of the dominants (whatever the level or the context)
Wat?
Flame wars are indeed second nature to some academics, and I love reading teardowns of bad and fraudulent theories. The difference with me is that Iām not conflating the dumb pet theories of someone operating outside their wheelhouse with every attempt to understand the world around us.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au8eT79WUJ0 lol
I donāt doubt that someone who fixates on the machismo of art excludes femmes from his life but thatās how you construct reality and again, women donāt post on these boards as much publicly because you are extremely unwelcoming. People create the reality they want through gatekeeping bullshit and itās pretty gross.
Masculinism doesnāt have to be homoerotic, but by definition preferring one take on āmanlyā men to the exclusion of others.
Whatever self manufactured reality you live in does not invalidate my life experience and observations. Feel free to prove to us that I have not been going to synth shops for 30 years witnessing the majority that are selling and buying are in fact not women. This isnāt in my little town. This is a fact on the east coast, the west coast and the midwest. Of course I have seen women working at Guitar Center, just as I have seem them making synth purchases. It is however nowhere near 50% and why should you choose to be offended by that? This isnāt an indictment of me and I didnāt aggrieve you by making this obvious statement. Feel free to show us all how this is patently false. You cannot.
And also, Iāve worked with numerous women on music projects over the years. I gave an all girl group a drum machine to help them get started. gasp
Youāre dividing interest in arts into āmasculineā and āfeminineā based on the assumption someoneās gender has anything to do with it, as opposed to it being historically unwelcoming and discouraging to some genders; historically presumed to be only for men or women. And taking into consideration some of the ideas on display in this thread alone, one doesnāt need to be a Masters in sociology to see that itās definitely the latter.
Nobody likes a sausage fest.
The more I read threads like this, and in finally being able to step away from polluting them with my own views, the more I notice, that nobody ever seems to change anybodys mind in the slightest. Have any of you had a different experience?
I dont flag the c-word anymore lol
I stand corrected
I think the problem is: when you benefit from destructive power structures like patriarchy, which are incredibly deeply embedded, then⦠the people who are hurt by those embedded power structures, by the time they finally get your attention, theyāre legitimately and correctly often very very annoyed, exhausted by the whole stupid thing. But to you itās all new and sudden and baffling, and you canāt understand why everyone on the āother sideā is so much further down the Being Very Annoyed track than you are.
I mean, other more sophisticated analyses are also available.
Nobody (and especially not academonologists) can tell you who you are - and by extension you canāt tell anyone who they are.
I beg to differ.
we can agree with you on everything you say about the weight of patriarchy without agreeing on everything that is said using the argument of patriarchy. Itās not an aggressive or desperate reaction to think that this āsexy gear fetishesā analysis isnāt very sharp (and Iām not sure it serves the cause itās supposed to defend, you can qualify my feeling as a typical reaction of a man wounded in his pride, but, i swear, i have no pride for those kind of thing)