I would see the problem if ppl would call women synths but to find it offensive if someone calls their synth “she” is honestly beyond me.
Dude, I’ve worked with and advocated for disabled people for nearly 20 years. There ain’t shit you can hope to teach me about ableism.
Maybe you’re open to learning though.
It sure would be nice if persons would focus on the nature of any criticism being made instead of making it about themselves.
Like I said, I’m not posting this stuff as personal attacks, it’s not about you. I’m a developer that’s been involved in accessibility features off and on and have a major drive to push within.
I was encouraging you to start a thread and I’d happily participate and learn.
But when it’s only being brought up when dudes need more self-awareness and aren’t being asked to sacrifice literally anything, it’s being used to handwave and not for better purposes.
Dude what?
Well for example in another thread a user described their synth as a literal concubine - surely you can see how a female member of our community might find that kind of association uncomfortable?
It’s sexist in that it attempts to ascribe qualities to a gender, and then apply them to an object, they’re objectifying women in general, not an individual, by literally comparing them to an object.
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It also wouldn’t be a problem if people didn’t believe they were entitled to outright own femmes.
Again, it’s not even the biggest criticism people have for these forums. So silly that it’s being taken as the one and only complaint with aggressive, hostile bro-culture.
And here’s my point.
Self-awareness.
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My experience when I owned a Porsche is that it gets looks and comments from kids and middle-aged guys. Women didn’t seem to care at all.
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Well that was gross on every possible level. No doubt about it.
It can be innocent instead of creepy and graphic and sex-related ffs. 
I mean it’s a long way from playfully calling your favourite instrument “she” to actually describing intercourse with your modular to strangers online.
haha THIS
I sold my silly car but kids would walk past and shout ‘WOW! IS THAT BATMAN??’
Whereas anyone over 50 just called the police.
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So, is that the single, solitary problem people have with dudes online?
If discussing objectification in some lesser context as y’inz suggest isn’t solving problems of gatekeeping and hostility in online forums, why wouldn’t we move on to any of the other aspects that can be better conceptualized to make for better spaces?
I’m not using rhetorical trickery, I’m asking what you’d tackle first from the standpoint of making communities more welcoming to femmes.
Nice try man. Try again.
haha for sure - there are lines 
Like all things in life it’s about context - the thing is context isn’t always obvious. You might refer to your synth as ‘she’ because you respect it very much and want to have a cooperative existence with it, empowering it to be the best synth it can be. But unfortunately that’s not normally the kind of thing that’s alluded to when people feminise objects.
It’s not the act of using the word ‘she’, it’s what’s meant by it.
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I drive an MX-5. Deal. 
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I don’t see instruments as purely material “stuff” but I kinda start seeing them almost as entities or spirits of some sort after a while.
Pantheistic tendencies.
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Yea I get that - and hey I do it to, culture is pervasive yo - and you can load a lot of respect into that kind of association and it can play off well in the right setting - it’s just not always obvious I guess is the problem and online especially so much nuance is missing.
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I’m not a woman so it’s difficult to be sure but I’d think this space is fair, kind and welcoming to anyone regardless of their gender.
The way you framed your previous question was dishonest and leading IMO.
If we are talking about this forum, why do you expect me to answer something like that? Of course nothing is “the single, solitary problem anyones having with other people online.”
That is the definition of rhetorical trickery is it not?
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Well, surely you can think of ways that things are handled better here than elsewhere?
Then why dismiss any other concerns being discussed beyond objectification?
If it doesn’t make sense, you don’t believe it’s a concern, and we should be concerned with more important matters, what important matters that were brought up should be more readily addressed?
No, it is making plain how handwaving is being engaged to avoid thinking critically about problems.
Stating “this isn’t a problem” is not engaging with any of the others that certainly exist.
Personally I rather pay attention to my own behavior and try to avoid being an ass, with varying results of course.
I have no desire to tell others how to act or what not to say.
If this space would suck I wouldn’t be here and I don’t want to make this place suck.
Very simple. I’m a simple man.
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