Is there a way to create multisamples from manually recorded notes? Looking through the manual, I can’t find a mention of this.
Loopop suggests in his video to record and autoslice in your DAW and then autosample from Computer to TV…
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I’d rather keep being on the Computer and create an sfz at that point, and put that to Tonverk’s SD Card. Saves a lot of time in that case.
(In steps:
- Record to Computer
- Slice into samples
- Export them
- create an sfz from that
- put sfz and samples in one folder on the TV
- TV will immediality recognize it and put it in the list of the Multi Sampler Instruments)
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I have to find out, how to sfz. But that stuff keeps me busy, until TV arrives:)
Ouch. Sounds complicated… I hope there’ll be a more straightforward way.
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Since it’s possible to select samples to make Subtracks from it directly on the TV, I assume it’ll be possible at one point too for Multi Instruments.
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i would love to see a video breakdown on this
i am a stringed instrument player, so figuring out a really fast easy way to make a multi sampled instruments without auto sample is going to be something i want to do very much
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Really fast easy way?
In any xase, if you have to do this manually, you’ll have to spend a bit of time to play each note, at different velocities (good luck to reproduce the same on each note).
Then you’ll have to slice, name and export it all.
Yet, you’ll still miss the articulations, ornementations and other tricks that make the sound of a string instrument.
If you wanna add the fast, easy components, not sure about the quality of the result.
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I feel like if you really want a specific multisampled instrument you can take 30 minutes out of your day to craft it carefully, and then you’ve got it for life.
Otherwise, you can just purchase sample packs online.
Not really sure how it can be made much easier.
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I might do that, for now I have to find out why some SFZs from the interwebs don’t work, but all the ones I have created work flawlessly. I have not found the difference in order to be able to edit them and make them work. Because I’d like to cover that as well 
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Apologies if you understand this already
SFZ is a really extensive instrument description file format, but typically a sampler that loads SFZ will only support a relatively small subset of the allowed tags … enough to get a set of samples mapped to the keyboard with velocity and pitch assigned and loaded in to memory and ignore the rest of the detail.
Could be that TV is not able to read / ignore one of the leas common tags and decides the file is invalid or simply stops loading.
Do you manually write the text file for the SFZ with a text editor, or use some graphical editor?
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I actually write them (luckily things like copy/paste, find/replace exist ), because all of the tools are so much clicking around in menus. But I’ve also used SampleRobot (paid software) for Multi Instruments, though it was also laborious.
The Auto Sampler in Tonverk is really such an amazing straight-forward implementation, the Tonverk does all the work for the user, instead of vice versa.
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maschine+ autosampler aint no slouch either. IIRC it even finds loop points for you automatically, although not always with perfect results.
I’m actually looking forward to getting my hands dirty text editing some SFZ!
What is the limit for the number of samples in a multisample? In Akai language, this would be like a keygroup, I believe. I checked the manual very briefly and couldn’t find an answer.
Also, soundfont import is brilliant. The recently updated and freely available ReCylce software will slice and export to soundfont. Could be very fun…
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I don‘t think there is one
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Isn’t there some kind of hard limit in the auto sampler of Tonverk depending on velocity layers or the amount of steps?
Since Tonverk has a decent amount of RAM it probably takes a few massive SFZ files before it becomes an issue. The MPCs behave the same way, I think the original MPC One has only 1GB RAM and that could be an issue pretty quickly.
opposition mode:
The topic title was very specific. Folks are taking it now to “general autosampling” territory. I see the need for that and have one myself.
Can we have please a own “general” Autosampler thread ?
I don´t want to open to many threads in a row myself
for example @LyingDalai
in the interest of all beginners and those who come later. As is, that´s counter productive. Help to keep the interent time down ! Thanks
PS: there is definitly a lack of information vs.
- data format requirements
- rename auto-named multi sampled sets
- max sample number, max data size number ( for beginners)
- loop point feaure request discussions
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- etc
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I would really like manual multisampling too. SFZ is great but I really dream of sitting with my Tonverk next to broken pianos and other acoustic funsies in the big wide world. I would totall spend an hour making a broken digital copy of them. No matter how imperfect, I would like to do that rather than have to wait until the next time I use a computer.
Basically, the current autosampler but instead of midi, it prompts the user to play the next note, lets you know which note that is (in regards to the intervals you set up), and uses threshold detection to start recording. It would be tedious, but would work with anything, anywhere.
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The file format for the multi sampler config is a TOML file that looks to use the open sfz spec for its properties.
So it should be fairly straightforward to do via a text editor or to create tooling to convert from other multi sampler formats like the OP-XY or Renoise .xrni files.
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