Yeah, I think it captured the freqs better, but both sounded great tho.
Yeah itâs because people waited since 2000XL for a big star like EA to start complaining
Your argument revolves around the fact that you claim the new MPC donât sound âas goodâ as the old ones. Nobody is claiming there is no difference. Youâre making an subjective judgement on the other hand that is not supported by any fact, so itâs purely an opinion. What you said about the Swing on the other hand is objectively false.
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What I meant is, itâs hard to make a fair, objective listening comparison if one sampler level is a bit hotter than then other one.
The MPC4000 sounds better to my ears as well, but Iâd like to know if thatâs due to the volume difference.
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Whoâs EA?
thems fighting words 
I donât know !
one thing nobody has ever said in these discussions about any mpc that came out prior to the current batch⌠is that their mpc of choice is âmore transparentâ
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But see this is where youâre missing the point. Thereâs no PROBLEM with it per se, some people (including people like EA Ski) point out that it doesnât sound particularly good, that is, itâs sound signature is nothing special.
Thatâs not the same as being dysfunctional at all.
A cheap, plastic made guitar will sound out all notes on the fretboard, but there will be instruments that just sound better.
The Toraiz SP16 just sounds very good right out of the box. Is it âflatâ sounding? No. If you want accuracy, maybe the MPC X has it beat, but a sample run through the SP16 without any further manipulation will have a sparkle that some other samplers will just not reproduce.
Is that sort of âpleasant sounding signature out of the boxâ necessary to make good sounding music with a device? Not at all. I repeat for clarity: not at all! And you know, some might find the SP16 worse sounding than something else exactly because of that sparkle.
BUT an instrument that has a particularly nice signature in its sound is worth something in its own right - it might inspire differently or, well, it might just sound better to someone using it.
Like a particularly nice sounding guitar or a particularly nice sounding piano. Nothing wrong with your avergae instrument, but some just sound better.
To say converters donât affect the sound is just not correct. The differences might not be radical to most, but there ARE perceivable differences.
If you donât hear them, enjoy! You save a lot of money and donât ever need to worry about the sound of the instruments you buy. If you donât rate the difference between converters much, enjoy! You can use whatever you like without any worry.
But to some people these differences matter, so to call them incompetent or accuse them of poor attitude is wholly inappropriate in my book.
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Show me where back in 2017 that many people said that it sounded bad. If it did sound so bad why did it take someone like EA who a many people didnât even know like that to verbalized it on a bigger and broader platform in 5 years later when there was people may not as talented as him but way more popular than him at least on YT not verbalizing it on a bigger and broader platform back in 2017?
Did you hear the comparision of the X vs 3k Tone-Lab did? Where was the âharsh/digitalâ sound in this demo:
Can you post a link of a demo that has the little âharsh/digitalâ sound?
Iâm in the process of transffing beats from the 2500 to Force & thereâs no âharsh/digitalâ sound that I can hear. It sound louder & more âmodernâ but thatâs because of higher bit-depth.
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Talking about converters, I think we face a funny dichotomy.
One one side, when we buy external AD/DA converters for our DAWs we always look for maximum fidelity and transparency in sound.
But when it comes to MPCs, most people desperately look for color. The more pronounced the sonic character, the better.
Too much of a good thing can get in the way.
Wow! Iâve rarely seen such a good tutorial!
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Thatâs why Iâm posting it. This is how you make demo. I liked how he showed the practical use.
Imagine thinking something huge happened when I see so many new posts on this thread only to be met with⌠this⌠
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Good quality video production. Wish it was really deep, but given the user manual isnât, and they didnât really go in deeper than that, the information here is pretty vague. Still useful though, thanks.
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He has the files for download, so if anything you can check for yourself.
@Phillip
I wouldâve liked to talk more about the TDS article that Hooked posted which is a topic that I feel is waaaay more important for our artistic development, but no.
Hereâs a part that Iliked:
"How Do I Know If Iâm An Artist?
You know youâre a true artist if youâre able to assimilate knowledge to your own creative ends. Thus, deriving a result that bears little resemblance (if any) to its source.
You know youâre not a musician and just pretending an artist; If youâre eager to find a standard way of working (even if that standard is presented as the secret sauce and known to only the chosen few).
Musicianship is the ability to radiate your individuality through the medium of sound based on common principles of the genre youâre subscribed to at the moment.
Youâre born an individual. Thatâs your distinct gift. You donât have to acquire it. Youâre equipped with the largest piece of the puzzle. From there you simply have to merge yourself into an art form so that whenever you create, your individualism remains evident; and ultimately audible.
That is the major area that an artist should spend their time working on. The knowledge and tools are clearly available. Thatâs not hard to find. Nothing is in this present time. Itâs nothing special.
Whatâs special is you! Nobody can teach you about yourself. They can point you in a direction to self-actualization. But your ability to harness your innate creative liveliness and translate it into sound is a top level of expertise.
Now if you donât want to do all of that; Then being part of a congregation that places hording mass amounts of tips and tricks to no avail, while attempting to sound originalâŚâŚâŚâŚ.? Weâll weâve seen what happens when masses of people do what their told without question havenât, we?
Oh never mind meâŚâŚ.
If thatâs your level of comfort. Then the church of conformity is for you!
Now hereâs the double-edged sword.
All artists have a duty to teach.
So then, isnât it hypocritical to teach something that could potentially become a standard practice by those who listen?
The answer is conditionally YES!
Hereâs the condition.
You as an educator, are then obligated to make it known to any potential students that any information given is secondary, by a wide margin, to ones ability to express their individuality within the art form."
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I had no idea either, like the majority of people Iâd guess⌠but, he makes a point of telling everyone heâs âlegendaryâ every time he appears, so I guess he must be.
This âlegendâ is now selling âconvertorsâ t-shirts apparently⌠he must be legit.
This whole convertor debate is so fkn unintelligent itâs embarrassing.
Iâve been glad to see it not coming into Elektronauts, but the prospect of a battle between German electronica and West Coast hip hop sensibilities, now that could be entertaining.
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Iâll give that a read, despite its clear lack of proofreading 
Ok, but the overall message was on point.