MPC Thread : MPC Live - MPC X - MPC One (Part 1)

cant find it in the manual or online…

tell me that you can change the count-in length, something thats bugged me forever. 2 bars would be SO much better than just the one.

@JohntheSavage ya what I figured, well he’s barely hitting them…I gotta put lead weight on my fingers to get response. good shit tho! I do notice he is staying away from the center. in fact thats the cleanest part of his pads :slight_smile:

Very nice ! I am considering selling my OT and getting an MPC One to pair with My Virus Ti

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Well, if it’s any help, I know that Haynes plays with the pad sensitivity set to the hardest it can be. So, in fact, he’s hitting them with considerable force. To that end, any drummer will tell you, it all comes down to leverage.

Cheers!

P.S. Actually, the center of the pads look the cleanest because he hits them there the most, and has worn the surface to a high polish. There’s a waxy coating on the surface of these kinds of pads, that eventually wears smooth.

Ya no…skin comes off where you touch the pads. Oils don’t seem to build up on these
I’ve been hitting the pads on the sides with much better results, as viewed in the vid you sent. Thanks. And I changed the Pad Curve to D, a more ramped response. Also provides better results.

His fingers must weigh 5lbs each. Freakin meat hooks. I have small hands sigh I can’t return em. Fuck.

Piece! :v:t6:

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All I know is, I hit my pads dead center and they have worn smooth there, just like David’s have. And, like Haynes, I play A LOT: finger drumming, running rudiments, etc., pretty much every day…

Cheers!

Cool!

do you guys find that your deck savers damage the corners or edges of your mpcs?

Yeah, autosampling can fill up space quickly and the MPCs currently have everything loaded into RAM. This is where streaming, if we get it, will help, but at the moment it’s the flipside of having a ton of sampling space (and having everything instantly accessible while you’re working). I haven’t pushed it far enough that saving has been a problem myself, but it sounds like a progressive save system would solve that, at least after the first commit.

The MPC has decent support for keygroups, but it’s not going to compete with a full-on PC in this respect, and I’d usually be looking for ways to optimise any KG program - fewer samples, fewer octaves, resampling, and so on. Faced with a fantastic piano KG that takes up 90% of the MPC’s resources, I think I’d be looking for another solution. Again, streaming could be a magic bullet here, time will tell. In the meantime, you often have to approach the MPC as a machine with a limited budget and work out how best to spend it. It’s a generous budget, but it will eventually run out if you don’t keep an eye on it.

It’s a macro synth at heart, so it does trade complexity for results. My recommendation with hype is to head to the end of the presets and play with the templates there - blank slates for the various oscillator types and combinations. It’s not dissimilar to the Model:Cycles or aspects of the Digitone in many ways - streamlined might be a kinder term than dumbed down, but it’s still possible to do a lot of sound design within its walled garden.

You should find this is a quick & accurate process once you’ve seen how its done - it’s probably in one of the videos below already, but there are plenty of examples if not. I’ll often let the sampler run as I play a variety of sounds in and then chop it later this way. You can also add slices while sampling, which may be a useful option for you to at least get an initial foothold.

As you say, it’s a complex device, because it does so much. Your video game analogy is a good one, though, and I think you’ll find it will apply to the MPC as you use it more. It’ll never be as muscle memory friendly as the Digitakt, but to achieve that you’d have to whittle down the MPC’s capabilities significantly. This is one reason by DT + MPC remains a viable setup.

Just keep at it! I bought a Force a while after my MPC One, and I found aspects of that move tricky because the MPC workflow had burned in quite successfully.

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Damage? No.

Take a bit of paint off… Yes.

Cheers!

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Not necessarily. If sensitivity is too high and threshold too low, your MPC‘s pads will respond to micro-vibrations in the environment (eg steps, mild rumbling of the table its on etc etc). What I meant is, turn sensitivity down a lot and then you can still use fixed level if you need full velocity and don‘t want to smack the pads :). If you get double trigs because your fingers rest on the pads after hitting them, just bring up the threshold and that should stop the issue. Good luck! :slight_smile:

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Imagine being so insanely talented at finger drumming and choosing to make what sounds like background music for a TV shopping channel. lol. Cool vid though

Just watched a few more vids and he’s prob the best finger drummer I’ve ever seen, v kool

Maybe you should checkout Haynes’ resume.

When you’ve been nominated for a GRAMMY, and drummed for the likes of Prince, Stevie Wonder, Chaka Khan, Stanley Jordan, and Mary J. Blige…

I say the man has earned the right to make as much and whatever music suits him. :wink:

Cheers!

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Your replies always seem so snarky man, not sure if its intentional or what but its not necessary.

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Exactly! I was referring to David myself earlier, took classes with him a few years back and the first thing he did with me was change the settings on my then MPC Studio. Also once was there when he complained to Andy Mac that the pads of the new MPCs were too sensitive to play them properly :grin:

His approach makes a lot of sense — low sensitivity, low threshold, so every hit gets registered but force can be applied more liberally to get dynamics right.

What a smart guy you are.

Cheers!

Are track mutes saved per sequence?

yep, + recordable as in realtime automation into the sequencer

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I’m thinking about reducing my footprint and going from the Force to the Live so I’m trying to understand what I would miss.
I don’t really need arranger mode and I can live with sequences instead of the Abloton Live esque approach, glad that mutes are per sequence.

the mpcs mute game is second to none
pad mutes
track mutes
and mute groups

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Yeah, it was a revelation to me, a real game changer and I was previously convinced it didn’t work. It was someone on the other now locked thread that told me.

I’ve been wondering whether I could use the midi in from the Digitone simultaneously now the midi in is freed up so I can access both types of sequencing simultaneously. I think it should work.

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