Yes, true. And on occasion, I do that with other gear. However, as much as I don’t like mixing and matching odd cables and adaptors, more than anything, I try to avoid discrepancies in my gain structure wherever possible. Much like a studio, the signal flow in my live rig (which is where I spend most of my time) is pretty much immaculate: i.e. almost everything is +4db line level on balanced connections; and anything that isn’t, is on an insert or parallel effects loop.
I do wish the MPC Live had a dedicated insert point for patching external FX. That would make using the 404 a no-brainer for sure. I still think the 404 is a useful tool for sampling though; it’s just frustrating in the context of a larger setup, due to the lack of connectivity, both audio and MIDI.
Ahh okay. In that case you need a line level shifter. Use a Lake People SYM-AMP myself, they sometimes pop up on ebay for quite a reasonable price. Using it in my setup for going from rytm mk I indiout into balnced XLR (line level)
I also recall many studios over here having Aphex line level shifters. And ebtech makes one too IIRC
@tsutek Nice! An mpc3000 or an sp1200 would be cool indeed if I had the money / space / gears to process it… But I have a Volca Sample already loaded with pitched up samples ready for some pitched down crunchyness and resampling! I’ve also read that the mpc has gained some pretty good fx since last updates.
@JohntheSavage I’ve never been too fond of the sp effects. The hands on tweakability is indeed nice but the effects themselves… meh. Which ones do you especially like? And what do you think about mpc last update with all the new fx?
Regarding the sample / soundlock, I think I can live without since an mpc can handle a lot more samples than a DT at once. The plocks, I’m still pondering how I would replace them…
Well, as previously stated, I’ve only had my MPC for a few weeks; during which time I’ve been mostly sampling and building programs for an upcoming tour, so I’ve yet to take the MPC’s onboard FX to task in any critical way. However, at a glance, and from what I’ve heard thus far, they seem to be usable, and they do cover most of what the 404 has to offer in that respect. However, I’m partial to the B-side, “character” type FX on the 404 that I’ve yet to find alternatives for in the hardware domain: i.e. Noise Gen, Vinyl Sim, Radio Tuning, etc.
For that matter, the Voice Trans, C. Canceler, Subsonic, and at least one of those (admittedly bizarre) pitch algorithms, though somewhat less useful, are also unique to the 404, love 'em or hate 'em. Never mind that several of the more common FX, like the Overdrive, Bitcrusher, Isolator, and what have you, are comparable to what you’d find on any other box, only you’ve got them all under one roof with dedicated knobs to turn.
Again, to each their own. We like what we like. I’m just saying…
For the record, I think you’d probably get along just fine without the 404; especially since you don’t seem to be a fan of its FX anyway. But again, I can’t speak for you there.
As for p-locks, you can record automation for some parameters on the MPC Live, but other than that, ya… Elektron!
I’m sort of in the same boat. I was torn between the Live and DT when they both came out. I don’t plan on getting rid of the DT, but the Live is on my radar again.
I’m not really playing out these day, so, for now, I’m not sure that the MPC would bring much to the table. I just added an Arturia BSP (already had a Keystep) and am starting to mess around with NI Komplete and Logic. I had an MPC1K for years so I’m hoping I can do a few MPC-type things with the BSP and Logic that I can’t do with the DT. I figure if I can scratch the itch it will save me a grand.
I’m honestly loving a hybrid setup at the moment. If I was planning on playing out, it would be a different story though.
It helps that I had to get a good computer for work, so it was easy to justify a powerful (and aesthetically pleasing) computer.
There is a looper, and you can resample the main outputs with it IIRC. Problem is, you cannot have the audio continue to play from previous sequence to the next one.
Akai force can play clips from every row in the matrix, so with the force you don’t need to use a looping transition trick. Let’s hope the clip matrix paradigm comes to the MPC boxes in MPC 3.0. The clip matrix paradigm is much more flexible than the oldschool single pattern/sequence paradigm, so I’m pretty sure it will become the SOP going forward.
That’d be your best bet for now as MPC 3.0 might still be a long time coming.
By the way, are you experienced with the Kaoss pads? I’ve been looking at them for some time now but have hard time understanding which Kaoss Pad would be a best fit for me. All this distinction between KP3+, mini Kaoss Pad, Kaossilator, Kaoss Pad quad etc confuse the hell out of me Some claim to be synths, some samplers, all have some fx but they differ between every model etc…
2.5 is out now. Just bugfixes and the new splice integration. They did fix that annoying air channelstrip default compressor setting though, which admittedly made zero sense to begin with as a default setting.
If splice is what keeps the lights on then so be it.
I like using mpc studio black over using my maschine nowadays. Mpc 2.x may not be the prettiest but writing drum loops on it gets more creative for me. Plus I can make a 4/4 sequence then a 6/8 sequence. Song mode is nice to have too