MOTU Ultralite MK5

okay yeah, but evidently this specific info for the Ultralite Gen 5 isn’t easily located anywhere and certainly not in the manual or even on the App itself

I’ve only had the og firewire Ultralite from release, so there’s no reason I (or others) would account for what MOTU do on other devices specifically marketed as ‘network’ devices and fathom this out somehow, it’s understood it’s not novel per se, but it just isn’t documented to my knowledge (got this from MOTU after asking) and i had expected/hoped that this config would be doable as i had no interest in using a device like that as an iOS soundcard

to be fair - even retrospectively googling

ultralite mk5 "1281"

gives no results (yet !)

so i appreciate this functionality isn’t a revelation (i’d just assumed it would be doable), but sharing the specifics may still be useful to a few others, especially as the app and device will initially self-create IP address entries that are not related to the computer IP you’d need for that specific hook-up scenario, let alone knowing that a particular port number is also needed

long term i hope there will be other paths to control it (some of it at least) wirelessly whether by midi/sysex/osc/browser - not too keen on iPad reliance

Original cuemix was midi learnable, dunno about 5
Browser stuff is osc

And documentation isn’t MOTU’s forte for sure. I think I accidentally got a certification looking this stuff up:

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Hello! Is it correct that the mixer is only for analog i/o? Because I’ve got Motu UL5 today and was not able to listen on phones mix anything from any other channel. In my DAW i have 1 track sent to 1-2 and another to 3-4. And when I’m pulling up 3-4 on phones mix, there is no audio.

Scroll over in the mixer and see if you have levels coming in on USB.
That’s my guess.

I have a MOTU UL MK5 and mix USB audio from my DAW and analog gear

yes i can see it there

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but nothing on 3-4. I kind of managed it by using cable going from 3-4 out to 3-4 in. And it worked. but still annoying.

Hmmm… that should be working. What levels do you have in the output section?

something around -5db. So you say, that i can do that without any cables? Also, i just updated the firmware on Motu, and now my iPad can’t see it with a direct USB connection. I’m a lucky guy. And mainly i want to use it with iPad. But i did tests on PC\Mac\iOS and it is the same results across all systems.

@inkie are you sure there isnt a matching ios app update in the app store for that firmware?

nope, last update is 2 month ago on appstore

it’ll be less annoying if you set
Mix USB Channels
to
Additional

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oh, that is something i missed, i will try! Hope i will be less annoyed haha. Thanks!

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Bless you! It Worked!

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But CueMix on ipad is not working with direct connection. And i have latest version of cuemix and motu firmware.


wrote to support, will see.

UPD: okay, i need to wait until the update, here is the reply from support.

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Well that seems like it’s gonna blow. Wonder if you have auto update apps turned on, it’s gonna break your box that way as well until it’s firmware is updated.

Just took the plunge on the mk5. Scan and Juno has some in stock in uk. Should arrive tomorrow.

Hopefully the driver is better on windows for me this time (vrs mk3).

There’s a new firmware update.

-UltraLite-mk5 Firmware: Version: 1.1.7+2398

-Release Date: Aug. 30, 2022
-Summary Changes

Improved USB error recovery.
Adds makeup gain to compressors.
Adds EQ to Reverb bus.
Adds support for mixing additional host output channels.
Allow moving loopback channels to host input channels 1 and 2.
Allow mixing host output channels in the Reverb Mix bus
Improved clipping behavior with phase invert turned on.
Fixed an occasional issue with startup after soft power on, where inputs would be scrambled or contain static.
Fixed repeated buffer when connected to powered USB hub, and hub is disconnected from host.
Fixed MIDI on Windows.
Bug fixes and improvements.

Available here Download | MOTU.com

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Added a video on how I’ve been using my Motu

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How does it sound guys?

I think this thread may have answered a question I was going to post.

As mentioned elsewhere I’m getting back into production with a pretty simple setup.
I’ve just taken delivery of a Rytm II, and BassStation and am intending to add a budget polysynth shortly.

It’s my intent work with a DAW (most likely Ableton) on a desktop Mac OS.
I was trying to make a decision on what mixer to get to connect this with, aiming for a budget of as close to £500 as possible.
I was leaning toward an Allen & Heath USB mixer, but 1, you can’t seem to get them at present, and 2, the USB implementation looked pretty limited compared to the Soundcraft MTK.
Then seeing a bit of negative noise about the MTK’s build and sound quality I became hesistant.
A little digging around brought me to the question of whether I even need a mixer at all.
Now I’m thinking the MOTU MK5 could give me just as much routing control as a 12 input mixer, but ultimately give me a much better and more versatile sound source into the DAW for final mix/mastering - and for the same kind of money.

I’m sort of talking out loud here, but if anyone felt like urging me (on swearing me off) I may take the plunge, especially as I think the above route would be more future-proof than a relatively cheap hardware desk,
Thoughts?