Moog Muse

Why not capitalize on the new collaboration? It makes sense.

I think the smart move is to support this instrument and tread very carefully with moving moog software to the MPC. I don’t doubt it may happen, but a Moog-branded monosynth plugin for the MPC won’t sell more MPCs, and and may negatively enhance the Moog brand.

Releasing some solid Moog products and supporting them well is the clever way to go.

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Thats what i said. The Labyrinth and Muse is just the start. Expect more.

Weird how hot this synth was for a month or so and now I rarely see anything about it. Price and space is the only reason I don’t have one now

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I think that’s just the hype cycle doing its thing.

I think it sounds great and can do things no sequential six can do.

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I think there also haven’t been any more released, after the initial batch sold out. so nobody getting one in their hands and posting reactions, questions, etc. apparently the hurricane and resulting flooding in Asheville pushed the next batch out by a month, but people are now getting them into their hands from those August pre-orders.

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That’s the kind of synth which can only be bought by a few, the price tag and space is really huge. I think about buying one as my dream synth, but too heavy too big and the cost…
One thing that has also push me to not take it is, fully subjective, but I hate laggy display when scrolling :sweat_smile:

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I’d love some feedback and sounds from users here.

There seem to be some technical issues on the first batch, hopefully these will be corrected on next ones…
https://forum.moogmusic.com/viewforum.php?f=24

I have been patiently saving money for months, I would love to play with this beauty, one day…

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I would have either gotten one, or have pre-ordered from the next batch if I didn’t just buy the Gemini. I just don’t need a poly full stop now. However, I still think the Muse looks incredible. If my studio space ever changes to where I can have a few keyboards at the same time, I would consider grabbing one.

I don’t want to curse myself, but so far the plan is to keep the Gemini forever. It’s such an incredible instrument. Just needs a 3rd Wave desktop nearby, and then I can get my more in-depth wavetable fix. :smiley:

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What are the chances we’ll get a desktop version? The only thing stopping me is my lack of space on my jaspers lol

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Havnen’t heard anything. I don’t know that they’ve done something (not Moog Studio format) like this since the Voyager Rack? I’d love to see it though! It’s the voice architecture I’m interested in, and a desktop/rack style thing would deliver that. Then I’d just control it with the Gemini.

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Same boat i’m sorta in, the iridium poly AT keyboard is better than the moog one keyboard for me in every single regard lol. Was the biggest disappointment for me with the One, and i don’t think the Muse keyboard will be any better than anything waldorf/udo put out on their flagship stuff either

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I like Moog keys, but typically on monos, like LP and GMA. They’re nice for quick playing for mono sorts of things. I think the FEEL of them would be ok adapted to a PolyAT keyboard, but yeah, the keys on the Gemini are spot-on for how I play. I imagine the Walforfs are the same. I haven’t tried their PolyAT keys yet.

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I know it’s been awhile but I guess I missed this post.

My muse has had the tuning issue and I’ve been working with my vendor for some time - Moog’s support sort of stalled after the hurricane, I’ve re-touched my support ticket with them (now two months old) to see if they have anything to say.

What’s happening: tuning sort of sucks.

After a full tune from cold (~1 hr) it takes a couple quick tunes to be good, but soon two voices (on osc 1) start to drift, 3 and 7 in my case. Once it’s ā€œstableā€ over 40c and a quick tune or two are run it will be in-tune ish, though ā€œstableā€ takes an hour or more to reach. In 10-15 minutes the voices will start to drift again, and after awhile (dozens of quicktunes and several power cycles - think a week or so) the quicktunes can actually make tuning worse, and you get wild 12-17 cents out of tune voices. The only real fix to that is another full tune. I’ve tried a tune warm too just to see if that changed anything, it didn’t.

Moog told my vendor they thought it might be hardware and I’m probably getting a replacement unit, but it really seems like software to me based on that description.

I don’t think 90 minutes to reach stable is reasonable for a polysynth, or that it should require so many manual quick tunes after reaching stable, but that’s me.

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Anything that refrains my appetite for this is good to know.
Apart from this, any other feedback, good or not?
It’s very expensive, I’m still saving but feel like I should keep it in the sweet dreams area of my mind.

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The sound is really good - so good I’ve been really torn about what to do. Sorry, that probably doesn’t help.

I don’t think I like the sequencer much, at least in its current state. The idea of sequences being separate from patches is ok, but in practice its a bit clunky (if you don’t change it the same sequence follows you as you change presets - I suppose if I worked from sequences first this wouldn’t be a problem but I think keeping ā€œscratchā€ sequences in patches is my preferred work style.

The diffusion delay sounds really good and the mod oscillator is really neat (as I understand it, analog modulation of things like osc frequency or filter frequency or PWM) you can control these same things with the digital LFOs but it sounds different.

I’m still wondering if I should have gone with a Polybrute 12 instead; the Muse promises a lot more modulation depth with the modulation functions, but I spend a lot of time checking tuning whenever it is on, which is frustrating.

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I wonder if it’s a first batch problem.
And if solving this would require some hardware revision or if it could be solved with software… :thinking:
Really weird to see such problem in 2024 when the competition in this area is rather flawless.
But yeah, the sound… ^^

Would you have some snippets of sounds, both of the defining and of some favorite noodling?

Some Sci-Fi themed sound design on the Muse.

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Good luck with it. I hope Moog gets you sorted with a new synth. Sucks to get excited about a new instrument, then have it blow a stitch.

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Thanks. I’m still not sure it’s hardware, it seems almost like the tuning tables get corrupted over time or something, but Moog hasn’t been terribly responsive for the last couple months (though they seem to be opening back up).

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