Moog Muse

very compelling / super impressed w moog right now

along w everything else, it kind of fixes everything that was wrong with the matriarch

a 37 key paraphonic version of this for a third of the price would weaken me

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It was in my basket. Then i reran the demos and something said watch the OB-x8 videos and wow. Im glad i havent bought it.

I think the Moog One is safe.

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I was so ready to take a victory lap on this. But no. They had to go and hit the 3k mark. Hats off to Moog (and all the speculators who insisted this would have Sequential-like pricing).

Really impressed with a lot of the UI bits and bobs. Faders! In all the right places! The oscillator control (saw-morph and pulse-morph with crossfade) is as intuitive as it it innovative. Giving the mixer a dedicated overdrive will save a thousand posts from people failing to gain stage their Moogs. Carrying over the triangle-button from the One is smart, as is all the digital control options they’ve expanded upon. But then they also spent the real estate where necessary to provide a lot of hands-on control (that modulation oscillator section is easily 4Ɨ the size of what it could be, but is exactly the size it should be).

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I hope they offer a similar upgrade. I would pay $500 more for poly AT.
I own a novation summit and love it but would love it more with poly AT.

or better yet, just sell a desktop version so I can use my Osmose or Kontrol mk3

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Epic synth, the arp-seq-chord stuff is pretty amazing.

I was looking to buy a Prophet 6 (found a few for 2k) but after hearing about the Moog Muse I decided to wait and see if this could the all-arounder I was waiting for. But I am missing the warmth of the Moog One on this one that I also love about the P6.

Might need to lean on the Prophet I think…

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I am digging some of these sounds. I think what will will get me to grab one is the sequencer and ease of use modulation assignments. They packed a lot in here. I am always wanting more sequencing and performative options out of my poly’s, and they added some cool features here. I think the price is decent too.

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As someone who was considering a Gemini, but waited for the Muse to be released before deciding, I’m very curious where you would land, if you were in my shoes?

The Gemini seems like a powerhouse, but the Muse seems more interesting and unique actually.

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highly suggest watching this one. he explores some of the most interesting parts.

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Oh wait, I gotta get some jokes in.

Sequential: Hey, check out this Trigon 6, a less expensive polyhphonic Moog.

Moog: Hey, check out this Muse, it’s the poly Pro 3 you have been waiting for (minus the digital osc.)

Me: Thanks

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Same here. Sounds like a every other Moog synth I own, plus I have those ā€œgolden ageā€ digital rack fx. I can already stack sounds with other synths.

But wait, it’s a new bright shiny object with lights. :wink:

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I’ll wait for the Behringer Moo’s. :cow2:

Yep, there are a few sequentials I might move along once this gets here (Rev2, Pro3, Trigon).

The Pro2 and ProphetX are safe, and I (will) get to have two fewer boards.

Makes me wonder if a Prophet '24 or something is due. I can’t see paying list price for a P6 any longer.

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As someone who rarely uses the patch points on the Matriarch, would I be losing anything selling it to fund a Muse?

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I’d say not too much. You can do a lot with the 16 slot matrix.

You won’t have any four oscillator sounds… unless of course you use bitimbral mode and then you can have six.

The delays won’t sound identical, but otherwise I’d guess you can get a lot of what the Matriarch does, especially if you don’t patch it.

The sound. I know they say it can do Moog but it doesn’t sound as raw to me.

round robin mode

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Yeah, I’m thinking it’s a bloodbath for Rev 2 owners looking to sell right now. Between this and the TEO 5, a lot of the possible used market just shriveled up and blew away

They won’t command 85% of the new MSRP at any rate.

Mine is compact enough to use as a master keyboard, and will probably get used in that way. Plus I really do like the fizzy stuff it does, just not all the time. I’d guess UBXa’s were pushing down the used price already, but I never really considered that real competition. The Muse clearly is.

I’m really curious how quickly I can set up splits on the Muse - if it is ergonomic enough, my Prologue might be on the chopping block, too. This thing sounds thick enough that 1-3 voices for a bass part in unison and 5-7 voices for an upper part will be enough.

I actually think there is a lot of overlap. The filter section of the Gemini is a bit less flexible, but both synths use ladder filters, and have high and low pass. The Muse definitely goes further there.

The oscillators on the Gemini are digital, but very very nice digital oscillators, and can do pretty much everything the ones on the Muse can do, though I’m not sure if you can morph between modulated PWM and another shape. You can morph, just not sure if you can do both at the same time, which is a lot more flexible than it might sound. (I actually have a PWM to Sine morphed waveform tatooed on my back (from a plot of my UltraFade VCO) because I like that so much. (and at the time, I don’t think there was another VCO that did it) :slight_smile:

Otherwise they seem roughly equivalent in features give or take.

Both sound very nice.

The Gemini probably has the edge though due to voice count, physical controls, more wave shapes (and replaceable wave shapes), poly-AT, and I would guess more future upgradability due to the digital nature of the oscillators. (I’m personally hoping for linear FM.)

The Muse is a lot less expensive though, and does a lot already.

Without a deeper comparison of my own though, it’s hard to say which has more modulation ability.

I would wager that the Gemini is a better PLAYING synth due to all the easily accessibly performance features.

Anyway, that’s more or less my point of view having not actually played the Muse (yet).

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You would gain menu diving with the Muse and lose the stereo analog delay in the Matriarch. Personally, I prefer patch points to menu diving.

BTW, the Matriarch keyboard sends poly note on to other poly synths. With it I can play all six voices at once on the Dreadbox Nymphes which I often input into the Matriarch external audio in.