Ah, thank you! Would love to but that was just a random improv I’ve slowly been getting the pieces together to drop into some solo recording this summer so hopefully I’ll have something to share. For me, it’s all about finding the right workflow to put a track together – your comment is an inspiration to keep it up
I can definitely find sweet spots (or sour spots!) of sort of electric guitar-like distortion with these settings:
4 note chords
square waves on all oscs,
osc levels 9:00 or higher, and
stereo LP/LP filters with cutoff around 2:00-2:30; no resonance.
I changed VCA mode to AMP ENV, looks like your pic was SPLIT vca mode which puts each VCA on a different envelope.
I tried with filter tracking off and maxed. Could get distortion with tracking at zero and other settings as above; not sure maxing it changed anything.
Some combinations of notes distort more than others, like when there’s a note in the bass range with a chord above.
Pulling osc levels down to 8:30 is clean throughout the cutoff range on my Matri with 4 note chords.
Changing to saws on all 4 oscs sounds better on this patch; it can distort to a lesser degree, but not unpleasantly.
If I switch to 2 voice mode (and SPLIT vca mode, as in your pic) I can get some distortion going with 4 squares. Seems to distort even slightly below 9:00 osc levels and in wider range of cutoff settings when I use these 2 voice settings—I don’t know why and it makes me question my ears.
fwiw, I’m guessing my results are similar to yours, and that this is just how the Matriarch behaves. But I’m no expert. Mine was an early preorder, when they first came out, so at least the behavior seems consistent from then to now.
Hope this is useful somehow. I can put up audio if you tell me what you want.
You’re a hero for doing this. Thank you! I’ll compare notes when I’m back in my studio and report back. Sounds pretty consistent with my findings though. Thanks again.
EDIT: yep, I’m finding the same results. turns out that adjustment from 9:00 to 8:00 makes a huge difference.
As an aside: with so much variability in terms of gain staging on the Matriarch, I’m finding it super helpful to run it through the Chase Bliss Clean for gain boosting and/or compression.
I’m also finding that for a number of parameters like the mixer levels and attack and decay envelope controls, I’m often trying to dial in levels within the bottom 25% of the range of the pot. Kinda wish they were scaled a bit differently.
Anyway, Matriarch is proving to be one weird, quirky synth. And I love that about it!
Yes. With the Matri I always feel like I’m in a relationship with a sentient organism. It’s more cat than machine. It may do something very pleasing, or slightly annoying, or need to be negotiated with until it does something I can live with. But there is a consistency about its quirks that is learnable (e.g., square waves distort sooner than saws), and usually a way to make it sound good with a little futzing around.
I had a similar reaction to yours early on, though: “Is this thing broken?” But knowing what to expect now, I find the tradeoff worthwhile because I love the core sound, the interface, and the way the synth does so many things well, from bass to lead to Moogy chords to being a tiny modular laboratory. It is not for everybody, though.
Good move. I keep grabbing fine tune without looking, thinking it’s the headphone volume (same small knob type), and throwing my Matriarch completely out of tune.
thanks y’all here’s a couple more matriarch and piano duets
I was using the Matriarch as a mono lead last season and now, really embracing its drone capabilities. and whatever the case, the delay gets lots of use
Lots of love for this synth but some woes recently:
went to upgrade to FW 1.3.0 because I wanted to change the MIDI velocity curve. I had to reinstall it about 7 times as it kept getting stuck in the process (which effectively bricked it). Then the documentation for the MIDI curves seem to be backwards and even then, I still find the softest curve to be too sensitive.
I tried using the MIDI echo setting (basically copying the IN to the OUT) and was getting pretty consistent hung notes, where a note off message was not sent.
Neither of these were a big deal but a bit disappointing
Anyways! Here’s a little random snippet, so my post is not only whining (Matriarch is the bass)
Y’alllll, I’m just realizing that my buttons are not the stock colors this Matriarch has been passed back and forth between me and a buddy (who used to work at Moog) and I guess he decided a change was in order
Audio for a better post:
I’ve recently been embracing octaves
-pitch wheel setup to be +/- an octave
-osc tunings +/- octave
-Patched AT > OSC1 tuning to give a +1 octave when fully depressed
Good idea: make your instruments play higher notes when you’re fully depressed to cheer you up a bit! Now you only need to program them to change minor into major.
Which semi modular would pair nicely with the Moog Matriarch and PWM Malevolent and add some interesting patching possibilities? I have some left space on the left of my synth stand. I also would like to use it as a companion synth with my OP-XY when traveling. Right now I am deciding between Dreadbox Nyx and 0-Coast. Would love to hear your opinions!