They released a firmware update years ago that solved the midi junk data problems I was experiencing.
Iām still EXTREMELY frustrated with the lag introduced to note releases in paraphonic mode. At the point where I barely use it, because itās only playable with older firmwares, but these firmwares donāt allow sysex editing, which imho is absolutely needed given how impossible it is to use the Global settings with its crazy key combos.
It depends on how you use it, but if you play it paraphonically and need to change the voice allocation schemes quickly, then be aware youāll not have a pleasant experience.
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Yeah I followed your saga with them, Iām surprised you still have it tbh. Itās quite shocking that Moog have put out two updates since acknowledging the bug and itās still not fixed years later. Need to see if I could live with it as I would definitely use the editorā¦
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I know, Iām surprised myself. I just want to love this synth.
Given how long the midi sync bug lasted, I wonder if they had the expertise to manage updates for a while (or if it was a priority) - nearly a year with clock sync over midi being unusable is staggering to me.
Paraphonic playing on the Matriarch doesnāt work anything like I expect (and I have a few other paraphonic synths - BS1, Pro2, Pro3), I almost have to assume the filter ENV doesnāt exist.
Does anyone have a hint on how to patch the Mod section waveform cycle to midi?
gate out to rate in? or clock out from the back to rate in?
My plan is to have the TR8S give me a tasty beat, and have pulses that line up with the tempo.
I think Clock Out to Sync In will do it
my understanding:
-Gate out is only going to send something if the arp/sequencer is running
-Rate In is not for syncing ā¦ itās for modulating the rate
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Glad I asked, I will get to work after yoga.
So clock via midi to clock out cv to sync Cv
Thank you!
That totally worked. It does sync, but it can be hard to get the exact intervals going. And if you make adjustments, you may have to restart the sequence on the TR8S to get it on a downbeat.
Quick question. How do you use the triangle wave? Itās seems like a calliope sound to me, and Iām having a hard time finding uses for it. Any suggestions?
And I really appreciate your help!
Thatās awesome! I also noticed itās a bit touchy, but hopefully it works for ya:)
The triangle oscillators? I use them quite a bit actually.
I like it in paraphonic mode. Mixing noise to taste (or using noise > filter cutoff) helps. Good bit of delay. A very dusty, ambient sound.
Iām using the Matriarch a lot recently, maybe Iāll try to post some audio here 
Had to look this one up 
I think the filter, noise, and filter FM are your friends to spicing it up. And the delay, always the delay
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Can you post a photo or vid? Iād love to see your approach. Audio is cool too
I just bought the Moog SR bag for the Matriarch, and Iām want it to be my signature piece of gear. So Im trying to level up, thatās why Iām so interested.
Itās kinda foul, but I donāt want to risk my Prophet 6 out there in the wild, so I figure the Matriarch to be less of blow if something happens. First world problems for sure!
Just noticed this. You patch the noise to the filter cutoff? And do you apply keyboard tracking?
Iāll try all this out and post my results too
@Affectionate-Bee-781. okayā¦ I got a pretty good jam, but that noise is pretty promanantā¦ I wonder what way I sould use to modulate it?
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Run it through the attenuator and youāll have control on how āloudā or how much noise is going into the filter.
And if you wanted to be even more fancy you can have an LFO go to the CV of the attenuator and modulate the noise and itāll sweep in and out. Or have an envelope go to the CV.
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hey, sounds good!
Yes, you can use your attenuator.
My setup right now is:
Noise > attenuator > Cutoff, cv controlled by the Mod wheel (or AT). I also have MW> Delay Feedback. So you increase the mod wheel, get more noise and also wash it out in delay.
I would take a pic but my Matriarch is just covered in patch cables right now 
Iāll try to get a recording later.
What kind of music are you making with this setup? My matriarch is doing a lot of ambient washes ā¦ making some dusty leads and textures underneath the rest of the track
also, I find filter keytracking can sound a bit wonky with paraphonic mode (not as smooth I guess)
appreciate the discussion 
itās a really unique synth for sure
Good callā¦!
I appreciate you both!
Also Chomps, how do you use the triangle waveform?
in the your set up thread that I referenced you on is a good exampleā¦ its a different vid with me arppegiating the chords from the vid aboveā¦
And I dont know what kind of music I make anymoreā¦ its really whatever I am capable at the timeā¦
My biggest hangup with the semimodulars, as I own the Maitch, the Gma, 2xDFAMs, and a mother and a subHā¦ is that I have a tendency to set them up like a Rube Goldberg machine, or a clockworks engine, where they all fall in line and I mute partsā¦
I am trying to break out of that and use it to make synth bass driven musicā¦ cinematic stuff, and not wierd sequenced multipart combos
I sometimes use it as a sub beneath the other oscs with more lively waveforms. Itās worth playing with the mixer levels to make the most of this.
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yeah, it does have sine wave characteristicsā¦ get it nice and lowā¦ maybe collapse the voicing to unisonā¦
I try to keep it brief when Im pushing the bass for the sake of my neighbors
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Yeah, Triangle is very similar to Sine so I tend to use it for Sub Bass sounds as well.
On higher pitches with some noise mixed it itās great for flute sounds.
Another fun tip thatās random but you can split the oscillators up in stereo. I tend to put oscillator 1 and 2 into the left Mult and Oscialltor 3 and 4 into the right mult. Then mult out from those into their own attenuator which effectively acts as an Amplifier (so use two attenuators one for the 1/2 pair and one for the 3/4 pair).
Then out of each of the attenuators, put one into Filter in 1 and one into Filter in 2. You can get crazy cool stero bass sounds and leads or pads this way. And of course use modulation to modulate the CV on the attenuators to give cool movement on top of the stereo filter.
Along that same line of thought you can make your Subharmonicon stereo doing the same thing, send one oscillator to one filter, send the other oscillator to the other.
Modular is fun!
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Iāve done something like this before too 
The matriarch has so many stereo options, itās a bit wild.
An easy trick I use all the time is to turn the envelopes into LFOs (ENV END OUT > TRIGGER IN). In VCA split mode, this creates a stereo drone 
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You put the end of envelope out into its own trigger in and it loops it?
Iāve never thought to do that before. Thatās awesome. Matriarch really has all you need for modular tbh.
Iāve downsized my modular system from two Arturia Rackbrutes to barely 1 and focused my goal mainly on adding to the Matriarch. Also have the M32, SubH, and DFAM and a Minibrute 2s.
But my rack now is basically just an Assimil8or sampler which I use mainly as an oscillator or giving different flavors of noise or other textures (vinyl crackles) to the matriarch. And Iāve got an extra mixer and Maths for utilities. But largely I still just patch Matriarch by itself.
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