Moog Labyrinth

So what do you think? Will the Labyrinth & Subharmonicon be a good duo? I think some day when I have the space I may want them both :wink:

It should be possible to tune them to the same key and have them play nicely together, but my music theory is too limited to understand how the subharmonics would work together with the ā€žregularā€œ scales of the Labyrinth.

Maybe some low pass gates, slope generators?

Otherwise, it seems like it would complement a Grandmother amazingly well.

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Hey folks! I’m still getting acquainted with the Labyrinth, but paired with the DFAM & TR8s and recorded this 20mins exploration …

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Pretty sure it’s been dropped here already but anyway:

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How are people liking this so far?

It feels like overall it generally sounds the same no matter the player. A few different vibes here and there but everyone seems to be coming up with similar things.

It does look fun, but how is everyone using it in compositions?

Is it a versatile as the mother 32 or subharmonicon?

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I wonder if that’s because the sequencers have been preloaded with sequences and those are first being explored?

ā€œBUILDING A RHYTHM
Labyrinth comes with its sequencers pre-populated with sequences, so if you feel like diving in and seeing what happens before getting deep into the world of patching,
feel free to press RUN/STOP and explore on your own!ā€

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I agree I have not heard anything particular interesting - all video shows pretty much same sequences,

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Seems like what you in many cases go after and build a modular for, the device seems handy in that regard.

It’s a pair of shift registery sequencers and some scale quantization; that’s interesting enough and a couple nicely made turing machines+quantizers could easily cost as much as the labyrinth. It’s got functions to randomize the sequences, and I’ve seen them used and understand how to use them myself.

It’s also a wave folder and a pair of oscillators. The only video I saw that dug into the wave folding and bias-shifting was Jorb’s, and that sounded nice and crunchy to me. But, I know what a wavefolder sounds like

I don’t understand what people are expecting, really.

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Maybe more techno-oriented 8-note loops?
Mylar goes this path.

Can’t wait to try this little beast!

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…for all who got bitwig in use and wanna give this west meets east coast concept by former moog hw company a try but don’t want or can’t afford it…

polarity got u covered with a grid patch substituting this perfectly…

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Yeah, it’s a random 8/16-step sequence generator. I think that particular vibe you describe is the default mode. The palette will be necessarily limited by the scales Moog decided to include in the random generator.

It feels like this would be hard to wrangle in the context of a more traditional arrangement. Not surprised that most of the first demos are amorphous plinky-plonky jams. It’ll be interesting to see where they go once people start to master it

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I would argue that this is the MOST flexible and multipurpose of all of these Moog panels. That said, if you haven’t explored much of the ā€œWest Coastā€ synthesis world (for lack of better term) this isn’t going to make a lot of sense at face value. Moog was nice enough to curate some basics it sounds like to get people started. This device is geared more toward people that really want to dig into it though. It’s not a groovebox or standard synth voice (though you could arguable use it as the latter). It’s a flexible toolbox and part of the larger collection I would say. It gives you different flavors of sounds, sequences, FM, etc. to add to your palette. IMO this is by far the most interesting in this lineup.

I would pair it up with a Mother or Grandmother to get the most out of it. (and if you’ve got other Euro on hand, (or any modular for that matter) add some low pass gates.

Personally, I think people will need to dig into it more to get some of the more intricate things it can do out. It’s such a nice collection of tools.

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Yeah, it’s apart of a collection of now 5 devices that kinda make up a modular groove box. Not saying it can’t do much on its own but like any thing semi modular they definitely get a massive boost when playing with other semi Modular’s or a eurorack system.

Why former?

I’ve watched a ton of videos and haven’t heard the same sequences or same sounds.

I’ve heard things I didn’t like and things I did.

Using the patch bay is going to get the different results.

As others mentioned, having Eurorack or other semi modulars will help.

I’m adding this to my Eurorack setup, and M32, DFAM, SubH, 0-Coast, Strega & 0-Ctrl.

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I agree. I suspect that for a lot of people it’ll generate excellent collections of sample material, but may not work as well for people who just want a semi-modular to patch up and run with. In the latter case, a West Pest or Taiga may be more suitable.

I’m excited for the inevitable sample packs.

Its a bit of an oddball imo. We know the DFam Mother 32 and Subharmonicom work gloriously together but this feels a bit like the Syntakt. Sort of standalone.

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I’m wondering if the Labyrinth would actually work really well with the Mavis.

The Mavis provides a lot of basic utilities available by its patch bay:

  • ADSR Envelope
  • Square/tri LFO
  • Mults, offsets, limited mixer
  • Square/tri VCO
  • Classic 24db LP filter
  • VCA (through the audio path, may not be DC coupled)
  • 1 octave Keyboard input

It’s a pretty boring synth on its own, but it’s half the price of the Labyrinth, fills in the gaps, can run off a daisy chained PSU.

I’m waiting for Labyrinth in the mail and I’m already looking at buying a Mavis :sweat_smile:

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Can’t wait to hear what you come up with :yum: