Moog and inMusic announcement

Yeah, but I think for a lot of people £€$300 is Serum/PhasePlant/Pigments plus Diva. Multiple instances, lots of young youtubers with “tutorials” and can maybe get a cracked version - so £0 spent. When searching for tutorials for myself, I skip so many videos just on thumb nails because the space is full of young people who are annoying to me - but it’s clear that more people are ITB than hardware based on my one, subjective source of info.

With that market being what it is, your further points are even stronger. Moog were an expensive niche in a niche.

They were a niche for sure, but plenty of other manufacturers are in the same niche and price range. Difference is those manufacturers are mostly pushing forward rather than relying on brand awareness and recycling their legacy.

The Sequential Pro 3 is a bit cheaper than the Subsequent 37, yet it runs circles around it and also comes with a ladder filter…

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Interesting. Why do you keep it?

Well because its rubber sides are sticky, keys are yellow and the LFO wave knob is dead. So not much point in reselling now. All very common sub Phatty problems. So much for build quality

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Makes sense.

Moog ran out of Boomer Doctors and Lawyers to sell $5000 monosynths to…

I almost pulled the trigger on a Moog One, decided to wait on a rack version… now we’ll never see it

The one is something special. Unfortunately they discontinued the 8 voice before this news. Also I believe it suffered a lot from tuning issues. Not sure if that ever got resolved

I was waiting on them sorting some of the Ones issues before I got one. It might be the case that now they’re under new ownership there maybe a push to iron out those issues like bugs etc.

And armchair athletes always play the better game…

Cheers!

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i’m sure benn jordan is great at what he does and everything but i got bored and lost interest due to neurodivergence etc

can someone please explain to me why we shouldn’t finance things on sweetwater

When using 0% finance specifically the store takes more of a cut per unit sold from the manufacturer to cover the risk of the loan, reducing how much the manufacturer makes.

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“The minimum requirement for an innovation is that the product or business process must have one or more characteristics that are significantly different from those contained in the products or business processes previously offered by or used by the firm. These characteristics must be relevant to the firm or to external users. […] An innovation can also result from a series of minor improvements made during the observation period, provided that the sum of these minor improvements results in a significant difference in the final product or business process.”

Source: Oslo Manual 2018

It only comes off that way if you refuse to accept the truth - that if you needed to make music to earn, you could do it with software for free.

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Ok sorry… I’ll take it up with him :slight_smile:

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From about 13.35 in he explains the Sweetwater co-op financing deal. I paraphrased slightly wrongly, but the thrust was correct.

Disagree with it? Argue with Benn Jordan, I was just relaying the content.

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Disagree

The Matriarch sounds amazing on its own and has more patch points to integrate to eurorack gear than any other HW synth I know.

The Subharmonicon exists in a class itself, besides the future behringer clone, what performs like it? Eurorack modules?

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Your argument to my point being? That oscillator stability improvements by use of modern microcontrollers that regulate temperature, warm up fast and can calibrate analog vco’s is not worth the label “significantly different?”

The DFAM and Sub Harmonicons are exceptions in the catalogue and I very much like them for exactly that reason.

The tuning issues for the One are not across the board. For people who were having trouble it is fixed/stabilized using a “whole synth calibration” routine that was added in the last update.

No, he’s saying that you CAN stick to software IF you’re poor.

And no, as someone who has dedicated myself to the finer points of music, both in terms of the craft and the gear, I flat-out disagree that all people are simply entitled to fine instruments; nor does that stand as an excuse for anyone to undercut or brazenly steal someone else’s hard work.

It has nothing to do with being a snob or an elitist.

Cheers!

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