Lol. That’s such an amazing piece of engineering.
Never looked into editing sysex…
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Uggh not really a tip or trick but just realised that I had overlooked the always on setting for retrig. Having a ton of fun with this and lfo to pitch!
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Yeah, it was a feature request of mine when I was developing the presets 
I think it may not happen, but it’s nice to dream!
Great sleuthing, this machine keeps revealing things, almost like little easter eggs 
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There seem to be some features that did not make it to the final release, like machine selection via CC, LFO destination machine and LFO trig mode. I wonder if there might be more of these hidden features to be found.
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maybe, it has been known (a since closed filter adjustment on A4 Mk1), but I doubt there’s a hidden way to unlock attack !
Well, to be fair, i probably wouldn’t have nosed around the sysex for that particular setting if it hadn’t been mentioned as doable
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Well, if they do not add these features I hope at least they do not remove their access via midi CC…
I am using the cycles as a 3 note dual layer polysynth with full ADSR envelopes per layer via ableton and max4live…so I am fine 
The lack of attack made me find an alternative…
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best to keep this stuff quiet then, but i doubt they will remove that particular functionality
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The best thing about forums is to share knowledge, otherwise they do not make much sense.
Maybe we should talk about things we find in gearslutz, so Elektron does not find out…
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How to parameter lock different LFO retriggering modes.
In the pad menu set Vdep to 0.
Set DST to “mode”
Set Ddep to 2.
A trigger velocity of 0 to 31 activates free run mode.
A Velocity of 32 to 63 activates retrigger mode. (retriggers the LFO when note is played.)
Velocity of 64 to 95 is hold mode. Current value of LFO is sampled when note is triggered and held until the next note is triggered.
Velocity of 96 to 126 plays a half cycle and then stops.
Velocity of 127 is one cycle and then stops.
Example:
To get an LFO that always syncs to the first note but then free runs set the first note’s velocity to 32 and then on the subsequent notes set the velocity to 0. The first note triggers (resets) the LFO and subsequent notes allow the LFO to free run but always locked to the same phase.
This is good when you want the initial phase of a free run LFO to always be the same.
Example 2:
Set velocity to 64 and enter a series of notes with that velocity. Set LFO destination to affect pitch (as an example). Each note will sample the LFO at a specific point. The sampling rate is determined by the LFO speed and multiplier.
You lose volume velocity with this method but this can be worked around by parameter locking the volume (DIST) parameter.
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If you want to ruin everything for us the best way would be letting Gearslutz be entitled towards yet another manufacturer!
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And that is the truth.
Surprising sounds keeps popping up.
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Nice…thanks for the tip. It’s still not in the manual 
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Pan locking per track:
Set the track LFO to square with retrig on. Set the speed to 1x and 0, and assign it to pan. Lock the LFO depth per trig to control panning.
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I was going to start a new topic, but it looks like this is the best thread for my question. I’m creating a pattern only use the Tone machine. What’s the best way to go about creating a solid kick?
I haven’t had any trouble creating a snare, hi-hats or bass tones, but I can’t seem to make a kick with some nice punch to it.
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A sine wave with a pitch envelope makes the purest thumpiest kick! Keep the machine as just pure sine, tuned low (to the pitch of your bass I guess) and use the LFO with env type assigned to pitch. You want a fast pitch envelope creating the thump at the start, so play with speed and depth til you get a sound you like, then you can try tweaking the other controls to customise it.
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This device is incredible. It’s my first elektron instrument and I just can’t get over how well it is designed - not just for sequencing, but also really for sound design. The diversity of sounds is striking and the machines are designed in a way that reveals their full expressivity slowly over time.
My tips are the following:
(1) Resist the temptation to set your LFOs to full modulation depth, particularly on chord machines. There are many MANY little edge cases at certain combinations of parameter settings; you will blow right by them if your LFOs are always cranked to maximum depth and/or frequency.
(2) somewhat overlapping with #1 , but… it’s really worth exploring setting LFO destinations on a per-trig basis, and this can shine in combination with excess reverb.
Hats off to elektron - this is my favorite music machine ever. It is really a treasure.
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Just discovered the LFO destination on a per trig basis. That’s amazing!!! You can basically parameter lock the entire LFO menu!!!
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Wow that’s awesome! Just Realized you can hit TRACK while pressing the stop button and it won’ affect the sequence. Then it play to restart when you’re ready!!!
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Lots of great performance and composition tricks here. Really loving the LFO menu parameter locks and the restart pattern feature. One thing that I’ve discovered is that on the scale menu when you hit PAGE it will increase the scale by 16 steps which i’m sure y’all all know but what i find fun is if you go from 64 to 16 steps on step 3 (or eighth note) then you can actually change the start of the track and in a since “shift the grid” of track. Really fun to do with a snare on 2 and 4 to get some variety. Then you can either reload pattern or try and time it back to get it on the grid.
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Mmmm
Does this work in M:S too?
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