Mixer - yet another question

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#1

hey folks, … I was under the impression that if a mixer has a usb port and say 12 inputs, make that 8 Stereo and 8 Mono … when I open Ableton (qubase, fruityloops I would get an input signal routed to every track

say my MD out 1 into mixer channel 1 and I see it on ableton Track 1
out 2 into mixer channel 2 and I see it on Ableton Track 2
A4 out into mixer channel 3 and I see it on Ableton Track 3

now Octatrack, same game L+R out, into mixer, and have one l channel and one R channel in ableton,

now my MM all 4 outs seperately recorded and displayed in ableton …

or is the only way to achieve that a Focusrite 20i10out usb sound card?

thanks for answer… friend of mine just sent 2 behringer mixers back to thomann because it came only as stereo sum to his qubase

in other words, i have a 2input usb sound card now… and A4, OT, MD, MM and AR on the way … how best to record into ableton with maximal joy ?

EDIT : I am PC user

Recording analog four
#2

In most cases, a mixer with an USB interface will only allow you to send the final mix to the computer through a L and R channel.

If you want to get multiple channels into your computer, you’ll need an audio interface with multiple channels, or you need a rather more expensive mixer such as the Mackie Onyx series.

#3

wow. what a price jump!

thanks MR. T :slight_smile:

#4 
 I've been looking at this recently......major headache! 

 When manufacturers quote something like "20in/20out" they really mean 6in/6out with an ADAT connector for an expander, S/PDIF for digital, and separate headphone i/o. Very misleading.

 So far the best bang for the buck seems to be a Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 with a Behringer ADA 8200.  There may be better options with Firewire, but i've only looked at USB. Good hunting!!
#5

Only the 1640i in the Mackie Onyx range can send all channels to the computer. My 1620i sends just the stereo mix.

#6

hey strawberry … the focusrite 18i20 sure looks nice … why is a Behringer ADA 8200 necessary … would it not work by itself? …thanks for answer bro!

EDIT … how c o n f u s i n g that numbering is … jesus! … cant wait for overbridge! (or underpass) elektrooooon do you hear us? …

there are some onyx mixers on ebay for around 400 euro…sigh

#7

Take a look at the Behringer (yeah i know…) ufx 1204.
Pretty cool Features for a decent price.
359€. @musicstore/cologne (Retour)
Usb and firewire and standalone Recording of all channels seperately. Even on a usb stick!
I’d like to have a mackie or something with a better reputation but spending my money on an AR and a sub37 left only 350€ for a mixer.
I’m happy with it

#8

Or i can offer you my ultralite Mk3 firewire for a friendly price :slight_smile:

#9

hey pmoldzio … i am still hoping that you show me some octa tricks one day :wink: … when my OT is back from repair, i will have 2 for a short while …overkill …

that suggestion of yours of the Behringer /yeah we all know/ ufx 1204 seems pretty tempting!

thanks for that!

#10

i dont have a firewire … but thanks for the offer bro! … can you record 6 individual (mono) tracks to say Ableton with that via USB / firewire with that?

#11

Yay for firewire. I dont have the hybrid ultralite (firewire only) so i can’t comment on the usb function.
But the motu has some really good features and is good in standalone, too.
8in-8out, all routings are possible. And also a nice software bundle.
And last but not least great Sound!!
If usb works for you you might get one pretty cheap.
Hybrids (fw&usb) sell for about 300-330€ on ebaykleinanzeigen

#12

Just a small note; if you have a recent Mac with a Thunderbolt interface, then you can use pretty much any Firewire device using Apple’s Thunderbolt-to-Firewire convertor.

#13

ooh, one more time, …, can you record 4 stereo tracks simultaneously into ableton (either usb or firewire) … theoretically? i want to record more that 1 Elektron Toy at the same time (eventually)

#14

thanks T … but I am PC user… just edited the topic …

#15

Yes it’s possible with the motu (with the ufx too)
(I can only speak for a firewire Connection)

#16

And you can route any subgroups to different Outputs to feed your OT :slight_smile:

#17

ooh… that is a very useful observation which I havent thought of! … cool bananas

#18

I think this one does 16 channel audio interface with simultaneous recording: http://www.thomann.de/se/behringer_ufx1604.htm