I don’t know the nuts and bolts of it, but that’s pretty much how it works elsewhere, just like marketplace access here, I believe.
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I’d like to double, triple and quadruple underline this: any changes should be evaluated on both expected mod workload and observed, after the change is implemented, mod workload.
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Can someone please explain to me why done people would want to see “the F word” banned from this place?
To me, as a French, it’s seems pretty casual and I wouldn’t even know how to translate an expression like “it’s f.ing killer”
Killer being way more agressive to me than sex, but I might just not grasp the subtleties.
Is this some religious thing?
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At a guess, American Puritanism.
See also the different treatment of “the c word” in the UK.
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I’m always amused to be wandering around the local U Express and the Nouvelle Vague cover of “Too Drunk To Fuck” comes on the PA at three in the afternoon or thereabouts and no-one bats an eyelid, not least because it’s sung in English of course, but I doubt anyone would care too much in any case.
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That’s tough! Wishing you more luck soon.
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If you want to hang with the cool shut-ints, it’s Hikikomori.
Class war innit.
Bourgeoisie are obsessed with manners and decency and crying about language.
I can’t remember the name of it, but there was this research that basically found that working class people and people in lower socio-economic groups are much more in tune with their own and other people’s emotions, largely fuelled by the fact that you’re much more likely to have to rely on other people if you’ve got fuck all. The research also found that people from much more well off middle class backgrounds tend to be slightly less emotionally intelligent and often tend to feel quite uncomfortable around emotional people, often misreading and misunderstanding the communication of other groups, which often ends on them feeling threatened by it and trying to make it go away.
Hence the fear of people saying fuck, shit and cuntbag.
They see aggression because they can’t see the nuance in the way emotion, language and reciprocity converge, because they have less needs relating to it.
Something like that.
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I can’t emphasize enough the benefits of finding a team sport you enjoy and then doing it. (attending games is fine, but participation in the sport itself is what I’m suggesting)
Also, beer makes boring people slightly less boring.
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My timezone catches up and I log in to Elektronauts dot com to check the miserable git thread. Someone has brought up urethral sounding. An anonymous Italian has done… Something. Fin25 is discussing class war. It’s snowing on Mt. Fuji.
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Ah yes that forum. There’s plenty of nice, knowledgeable, talented people there. There are also a handful of obnoxious, rude and clueless people. Those are prolific, they show up in every thread spewing inane opinions, and one of them is even a mod, meaning it can’t be blocked or ignored, so you have to put up with their whims if you wish to browse the forum. I don’t even bother going there these days.
If you want to see the difference that a good mod does, compare @LyingDalai with that other guy in that other forum.
(Is this the LyingDalay appreciation thread part deux?)
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That’s not how I heard it. Pretty sure it went down like this…
Also, I have it from a reliable source that Pablo Picasso was never called an asshole—not in New York!
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I added some text. I’m an addict and not too fun around people when I drink as I get too hammered and go for days if possible.
Never really tried team sports, thanks for the idea! I have started ski('ing) but its just another lonesome sport.
It sounds like i’m crying here. Don’t worry! Just dealing with it
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Hrm, seems like I already made this joke 8 months ago.
Seems like my HDD dying isn’t the only recall issue I’m suffering from.
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These days its pretty common to encounter people who don’t drink/partake, so that shouldn’t be a problem.
I have started ski('ing) but its just another lonesome sport.
Skiing was my sport when I was younger. It can be a social activity, but I’ve never been part of the skiing social scene, so I hear you.
What worked better for me was sailing, [moved to DMs]
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Hehe, not sure what you mean by sailing! I mean flat skiing. You know the type you see in olympics(?). I do snowboard as well, but i’m too scared to go as hard as I’d like after multiple injuries.
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I bet he was in France (yes, I know the song reference 
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Pablo, having a normal one:
On page 31, Miller mentions that Picasso carried a Browning revolver loaded with blanks. “He would fire at admirers inquiring about the meaning of his paintings, his theory of aesthetics, or anyone daring to insult Cézanne’s memory,” Miller wrote
https://news.artnet.com/art-world/art-bites-picasso-revolver-2451422
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Bet that would cause a few people to enter their brown period.
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I think it’s partly a religiosity thing—lots of Americans go to church to show membership in a cultural group, and not because they care about accepting people as they are or protecting the poor & persecuted, or any of the other stuff that’s in their book (and even marked in red so you don’t miss it). That set tends to have very strict speech norms, at least when it comes to people they disagree with. If you can’t find fault with someone’s argument, find fault with their vocabulary. Taking issue with the words lets you ignore their meaning.
So I dunno, I think I partly agree with @Fin25 and partly disagree… I think in many ways etiquette and social standards can be a force for good, and even democratizing, because they create a universal, understandable baseline for how people interact with each other. A lot of classic etiquette rules are about making other people feel comfortable.
For instance, Emily Post wanted her work on etiquette to give working people the social tools to move in higher social circles—the unspoken “keys” that before then had been intentionally hidden. Shibboleths, basically.
Unfortunately, Post’s work has been twisted over the years to do the exact opposite of what she intended—setting up more barriers between social & economic classes instead of breaking them down.
I used to think norms and social standards were all bullshit, but man, the last 10 years in the US have been a real education on what happens when people ignore social norms. Seems like it’s a pretty small step from there to extrajudicially murdering dudes on boats.
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