Miserable git's general and non-specific (but very inclusive) whingeing thread - If you've got thoughts about stuff, I'm your guy

Did you miss the return of The Italian? It was quite the ride.

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Whoah. I need more details. Or maybe I don’t, I can already imagine it.

Give me the highlights

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He had a really low effort sexist joke and a few paragraphs about his political opinions for some reason. Also vague legal threats and a literal threat to kick someone’s ass in real life.

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I’ll DM you and @micabeza the text from the OP. I copied it, you know, just in case. Can’t have you fellas missing all the fun.

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Let’s move on! It’s bad enough people actually engaged and bumped his nonsense while it was live.

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I was around for yesterday, but seems like something new happened today?

I was there for this part of it but I missed the ban evasion event

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I knew things we’re gonna get zesty after yesterday, so even I was screen capping yesterday.

Screen Crap should be a new name for the internet.

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Doxing? Anarchists? Fights? Retirements?

Tune out of the “miserable gits” thread for 18 hours or so and you miss all the “fun”…

I hope everyone is OK.

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Yeah…when you see:

You know you missed something good

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Ahem… cough cough…

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Oh…uh…and @ViolentMeals, of course!

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a wave of melancholy entered the chat

What’s wrong, you trying to midi sync something with Tonbork?

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I’m trying to end it all with a hot glue dispenser

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If you value the content to the tune of $600 and you are financially prepared to absorb the loss, sometimes the cost of good service exceeds the value of the work and therefore there is nobody who can tell you it’s not worth the price.

On the other hand if it’s something you haven’t accessed in a while and when you search your soul you’re just hanging onto it for the fact that you worked on these things and the time and effort and proof of your own involvement is what’s important, but you also don’t have immediate plans to work with the data and it only has value if you put extra work into it, consider that the value you’re trying to preserve is already that which is contained within you, and that the skill you acquired when working through all of your creative modes including the DNB battles and the lost backups and your covers of various depressing songs all may have more value as part of your skillset than the project backups do on your current situation.

The same energy and also the same mental taxation from putting your faith in an unknown might be better spent on applying your acquired skills towards new and brighter goals and if seagate is able to fix the drive and recover it for free then that’s good enough and if they aren’t then that sucks but on with your life you go.

Only you can determine what is truly valuable to you. $600 sounds like what you’d quote to some douchebag executive who locked his vacation condo security code in a hard drive and now he can’t get into it because he spilled coffee on it, and $150 still sounds like a lot but it’s on the side of “i think I might pay that” so rather than write an open ended check which starts at headache and ends with condo code recovery, it might be easier to decide now how invested you are in recovering the material vs how much it’s a product of wanting to recover that piece of yourself.

I’m not trying to talk you into it or out of it, just saying to recognize where the backups came from and that from my perspective, there is “more where that came from” so to speak.

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I could be wrong on this, but I believe that when Elektron offered to host the forum, they chose some moderators from those active on the previous electron-users site, and they are probably pretty hands-off, letting a sort of community standard prevail. I don’t know if there is compensation involved in moderation, but if so it is almost certainly a token considering the amount of thankless work. I have only moderated my own course forums, and even that is quite tricky. The one mistake I might attribute to Elektron is to not have appointed more moderators as some became inactive. We only have two active moderators right now, I believe, and we will lose one in half a year.

I am with you on the quality of some recent arrivals, but what is a moderator to do about that? If someone chooses to try to make every thread the “all about me” show, or posts a variant of the same comment on two dozen threads, or treats a Discourse thread like a YouTube livestream chat window, is a moderator supposed to DM them instructions on how to act like a mature human being? I don’t even do that for all of my students, and they are real people to me, not a random string of letters and digits.

There need to be more moderators, and probably a bit of a discussion on what the community standards are, though I think what has evolved by action of the current moderators is pretty good, even if it is strained right now. Maybe each of us needs to be a bit more proactive in trying to steer problematic members in a better direction, rather than just ignoring or blocking. I don’t have any easy solutions.

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I feel like I’m on here 95% of my waking hours and yet I still manage to miss bits of spicy drama. Though I gather I didn’t miss much.

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