Hey,
I would like to be able to use a footswitch to change patterns on the OT while playing guitar. I don’t see it addressed in the MIDI chart in the manual. Curious if it made it into a later update or anything.
The Octatrack’s patterns cannot be selected by MIDI Control Change messages, but you can use MIDI Program Change messages to do so (if your foot pedal supports those).
The set up for using Program Change messages is in the PROJECT > MIDI > SYNC menu, described on pages 42 and 43 of the manual.
Thanks!
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Also remember that MIDI tracks may send some (Pattern + Part dependant) program changes, if you have set them up as such. See page 113 in manual.
… but also remember that miketheman is here referring to the OT sending MIDI Program Change messages, not receiving them as skyshaver was originally asking about.
Of course, it is possible for the OT’s MIDI sequencer to sequence its internal audio tracks but, depending on the situation, that may not be desirable.
… but also remember that miketheman is here referring to the OT sending MIDI Program Change messages, not receiving them as skyshaver was originally asking about.
Of course, it is possible for the OT’s MIDI sequencer to sequence its internal audio tracks but, depending on the situation, that may not be desirable.[/quote]
Correct. Sorry that I was a bit unclear, what I meant was:
If sending an program change to OT it will change pattern (given the setup is correct). And within this change to another pattern, it may load an other part which in turn will transmit a program change from the midi track (given that such a track is setup and used with its program change transmissions). This could be changing something on another unit, with no direct correlation to the program change sent from the foot controller.
The not so obvious thing is that it would only happen when changing parts, which every program change number sent from the foot controller most certainly will not activate. So it could go ‘under the radar’ for a while, but becoming disastrous (live) later on if being unaware of it…
Note to self:
I don´t know what happens if an audio track and midi track shares the same midi channel. Something to check.
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Note to self:
I don´t know what happens if an audio track and midi track shares the same midi channel. Something to check.
if a midichannel on your octatrack shares a midichannel of an audiotrack… some stuff will not work that well… you should try it… encoders don’t work that, some settings will not work… forgot details… but well… stuff don’t work 
Every morning I rise early and chant my personal mantra (pages 111 to 112 of the manual):
If an audio track and a MIDI track share the same MIDI channel, the MIDI track will block the audio track from sending out data while the audio track will block the MIDI track from receiving data.
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Thanks guys, anyone know a foot controller I can use to send program changes per switch? I checked out the KMI 12 step but it seems to only send program changes when you change presets.
The Behringer FCB1010 can send MIDI PC messages and also MIDI Bank Select messages.
[In order to access all the Octatrack’s patterns, you would need to send a Bank Change message to distinguish between two groups of patterns on the OT: A01 through H16, and I01 through P16.]
There may well be others that are better or worse than the Behringer.
Pretty much any foot controller will do, that is the very core purpose of them. However, KMI 12 seems to be more of an ‘bass pedal’ (think playing notes with your feets, as organ players). Anyway, if you´d like to go advance:
[url=“http://www.famcmusic.com/store/liquid-foot”]
http://www.famcmusic.com/store/liquid-foot
Those footcontrollers can really fit into pretty much any setup for multi-instrumentalists, as your programming can go really deep and being nestled (that is ie: one switch does more than one thing depending of if it´s first or second press).
RMJ music (http://www.rjmmusic.com/) got similar in their latest series (LCD at each switch), but more expensive.
If you are based in europe, perhaps Gordius (http://www.gordius.be/midi-footcontroller-products.php) is interesting.
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Cool, I got the FCB 1010 and managed to get the footswitches to change the patterns. Now to figure out what else I can do!
Pretty much any foot controller will do, that is the very core purpose of them. However, KMI 12 seems to be more of an ‘bass pedal’ (think playing notes with your feets, as organ players). Anyway, if you´d like to go advance:
[url=“http://www.famcmusic.com/store/liquid-foot”]
http://www.famcmusic.com/store/liquid-foot
Those footcontrollers can really fit into pretty much any setup for multi-instrumentalists, as your programming can go really deep and being nestled (that is ie: one switch does more than one thing depending of if it´s first or second press).
RMJ music (http://www.rjmmusic.com/) got similar in their latest series (LCD at each switch), but more expensive.
If you are based in europe, perhaps Gordius (http://www.gordius.be/midi-footcontroller-products.php) is interesting.[/quote]
yeah mes got 2 midi pedals (footcontrollers)
lotsa toe tappin fun
Pretty much any foot controller will do, that is the very core purpose of them. However, KMI 12 seems to be more of an ‘bass pedal’ (think playing notes with your feets, as organ players). Anyway, if you´d like to go advance:
[url=“http://www.famcmusic.com/store/liquid-foot”]
http://www.famcmusic.com/store/liquid-foot
Those footcontrollers can really fit into pretty much any setup for multi-instrumentalists, as your programming can go really deep and being nestled (that is ie: one switch does more than one thing depending of if it´s first or second press).
RMJ music (http://www.rjmmusic.com/) got similar in their latest series (LCD at each switch), but more expensive.
If you are based in europe, perhaps Gordius (http://www.gordius.be/midi-footcontroller-products.php) is interesting.[/quote]
yeah mes got 2 midi pedals (footcontrollers)
lotsa toe tappin fun [/quote]
You made me curious, what do you use those note-sending midi foot pedals for?
Perhaps some comb filtering?
Probably Chromatic Mode (if using them to play samples). Then in overall, everything is controlled via incoming NN. So it could be anything actually, given that he´s in the correct octave.
Comb filtering would indeed be possible via CC, but you would have to convert NN (from pedals) to CC in that case.
Another use could also be to record NN to MIDI tracks…
I see… But I am more curious of what is a note-oriented pedal for in the context of guitars?
For guitars themselves, nothing… but for the midi-capable gear. a whole lot.
most of these midipedals, are configurable to send midi-notes or midi-cc or midi-program/bank changes.
for educational purposes: think of this.
you have some guitar-dude that wants to play at a gig. but he does not want to bring an amp-stack and a bunch of fx-pedals… he wants to bring a laptop + a midi-footcontroller…
He plugs his midi-controller in his laptop. setup his ampstack-guitarfx program… plugs in his guitar… and done all his computerbased effects live on stage, under his foot.
or think of some dude, who wants to play organ, but all he got is an organ-module… you plug in keyboard AND an organ-foot-pedal-board… and voila, organ-fun on your computer/livesetup…
basicly a midi-footcontroller, is like a midi-keyboard, but in a footcontrollor-box…
Exactly as the_dreamer said.
An note-oriented pedal in this case does a lot of sense in regard to that controlling the OT happens (mostly) via NN. But had all its functions been controlled via CC, then a normal PC/CC midi foot controller would perhap make more sense than an note-oriented pedal. But you would then loose the overview of them as keyboard ‘notes’ (white/black keybed layout).
So playing NN to record into the MIDI tracks would be a bit ‘harder’ with an regular PC/CC midi foot controller, since the layout of the switches often wouldn´t fit any ‘imagination’ of them as a white/black keybed layout.
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