Awesome! It’s a massive synth in a tiny package, enjoy! Also, the reverb can be super huge and floaty and nice, if one’s into that sort of thing xD
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Spend some more time with it this morning. Really dug into the modulation matrix.
I ran into my first head-scratcher: is there a way to modulate parameters in the effects? And, relatedly, is there a way to set up effects to “send” rather than “level” so that, for instance, I can set the level of the delay, but then only send higher notes?
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No you can’t modulate FX parameters.
Send to FX is done after the voices are summed, so it’s impossible, even with a send fx implementation, to allow only higher notes to be effected for example.
Well it can work one note at a time but not with a 3-note chord.
There is only 1 delay for 6 voices of polyphony (or 12 in monotimbral mode).
I know some poly allow this (FX modulation by voice parameter), and I’d like to study how they are doing this because there has to be some kind of compromise somewhere.
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Thanks for the super fast reply @elektrosamplist. I am really loving the synth.
After your explanation, I immediately see the issue. I had programmed this trick on my Dreadbox Typhon and didn’t stop to think what a difference a mono synth setup makes.
So here’s a guess at a process that might work based on how paraphony works in some synths. If it’s note number modulating, you could set a “note high” or “note low” option when in poly mode so that only one note number affects the parameter being modulated. Ditto for envelopes if they are per note. I’m not a synth designer so maybe this doesn’t make any sense. But using aftertouch for feedback swells, for instance, would be…swell.
I would love love love a “send” option as a well as a “level” option so I could do dub swells. Even if that was just a 4th parameter knob on the delay and reverb screens…
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Are you going for a shimmer reverb/delay effect? An alternative could be to use the second layer for effects. Have layer A be the dry patch with a decent amount release and use the same patch for layer B, but pitch it up an octave and add your preferred amount of delay or reverb. Also adjust the attack of layer B so that the higher notes come in where you want them.
I didn’t come up with this tip, Razmo shared it over on the Sequential forum.
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Cool idea. I’m not looking for a shimmer in particular – just a way to send sound into fx and to have high notes “wetter” than lower notes in a poly patch.
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Would a keyboard split work…wetter layer B on the higher notes?
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Does anyone have any tips for creating a DX7 style EP on the MM2 or really any general FM sound design tips? Thanks!
Not sure if it will have what you need but there was a very nice collection of patches published a while back with a demo. You may want to check that out.
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That might work! Will try later.
The electric piano sound in bank A can get more DX7y by turning up FM amount in the oscillator section.
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Thanks, I’ll give it a try.
Thanks! I’ll check it out.
For FM patches you can try this :
OSC 1 type : fmSine ; Mix1 : Full ( it’s your main OSC )
OSC 2 type : Sine ; Mix2 : 0
OSC 3 type : Sine ; Mix3 : 0
Modulations :
env 3 > Shape 1 : that’s your FM modulation, set amount to taste
offset > osc 3 tune : this is because you have more precise control over the pitch this way
The trick here is to play with 2 things : the snappiness of the env 3, the ratio between osc 3 and osc 1 tune.
Try experimenting with various things, using fmTRI/fmSQU instead, try playing with the ratios (osc3 tune vs osc1 tune ), maybe your osc 2 and 3 mix for additional harmonics, maybe try routing an LFO to any of these, maybe have many envelopes ( or 1-shot lfos ) modulating the FM amount (osc1 shape) at different rates, you can really get creative here.
A nifty little tool I used when programming FM sounds is an audio spectrum analyzer, it’s handy when you think about the harmonics that you want (or not) in your final sound, it let’s you dial precise tunings with the overtones/undertones in mind, also handy if you need to filter any of those undesired harmonics.
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More questions after more messing around. Some of these may be feature requests. Tagging @elektrosamplist but I’d be happy to hear from other users.
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After more messing around it seems that the delay “level” is actually a send, which is great! But reverb level is “level” – I can live with that. Would still love the option of separate send and mix for reverb for more ambient noodling fun.
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I love that the home screen can be different per preset. Very very helpful for performance.
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Is there a logic to the organization of presets that I’m not understanding? Seems like types of sounds are not organized together – so it’ll go from a pad to a bass to a keyboard to a lead, rather than grouping them by type.
What are people doing to organize presets for themselves? Is there a good recommended computer utility for that? I’d like to go through, pick the ones I like best + the ones I make and have those available first. (I’m on MacOS if it matters.)
I do like that it boots to the last preset selected so that’s also a workaround.
- Is there anyway to have a combi “split AB” but for MPE mode? For a couple songs with my band, I have an AUM preset where I use the lowest two rows on my Linnstrument for synth bass and then higher notes for a weirdo Rhodes patch. Would like to do something similar here, but I bought the MM2 to ditch the iPad for live playing.
I realize I can do that in regular combi mode, but it appear MPE is a global setting, not a per-patch setting, so I’d have to change that as well. And what I’d like to be able to do is quickly load a preset per song.
That is a feature request… it would be great if presets could either be sorted or filtered by type. Unless I missed a firmware update, you can’t do that right now.
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Right, but surely there must be a way to dump them to a computer, organize them, and then reload them onto the MM2? Someone must have tried?
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Thank you so much, this is super helpful!
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Oh, yes, you can definitely back them up to computer. It’s all done via sysex, the manual has details.
EDIT: page 33
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Thanks. Is Sysex Librarian the same as the “Sysex Manager” mentioned there?