MC 707 / 101 : Roland Grooveboxes

Yes, the external input is absolutely routed to the USB audio. I have used the 707 to apply FX to bass guitar (P-bass+Juno chorus=delicious) plugged in to the inputs and then record direct out to my DAW. it works nicely

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So the synth engine is deep but how is this thing for shaping sound and creating more or less finalized mixes?

You get 2 sends, one insert effect and eq + compressor, right? Is it quick to work with? Do you feel that it is too limited?

What about single drum track sounds, can you shape those as much as you like?

Not in the slightest, the eq, comp and fx are very usable, a tad menu divey but not too difficult to dial in what you want.

Pretty much, tuning, decay, replace waves, layer upto 4 with random or velocity switching, plus the aforementioned eq, fx etc.

Nice. Didn’t quite get it from the manual, but do you get eq + fx insert per pad on a drum track?

Eq, insert send, delay send, reverb send per pad. Also forgot to mention FXM (frequency cross modulation) which is per wave (upto 4 per pad) it is a kind of FM with depth and colour. But I have not experimented with that much so far.

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Cool. Thought it was just per track. Thanks for clarifying.

Need, probably not, but I’d like to have the chance to do it for sure. At this point I guess I’m sold on the 707 more, but if a nice deal will show up on a second hand 101 I could buy and try it. But as I said in a previous post, if I’ll glue with the zencore workflow I’d rather get the big boy and maybe sell some stuff to make room for it and rework my setup more around 707+TR8s. Let’s wait and see what will come up. There are a couple of interesting advertisements on MCs, but here in Italy people seems to love to not respond on their own selling posts…

From my experience I would absolutely recommend 707 over 101, if you think you might use it’s additional features in the future or even make it more of a central piece of gear.

A short backstory to explain why I think so: since I added Digitakt to my 707+TR-8s combo, I was thinking about downsizing Rolands to 101 and TR-6s. I decided to keep 707, it’s worth it for external inputs and editing capabilities, screen also gives you a nice overview of clips and scenes. Don’t know about 8s yet, sidechain and trigger outputs are still biggies, although I managed to trigger SH-01a and TD-3 from 707 using assign outputs and DT “kind of” have sidechain. But I don’t need as much channels anymore and would prefer more compact and manageable device to accompany the DT for drums. I am also thinking of selling the Deepmind because of 707 - since I got 707, DM gets less and less use, even though it’s nicer and much more hands-on to work with and sounds very good. It’s just not as versatile as 707 and only monotimbral.

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TL;DR:
i had 707 and later also got 101 for 3 reasons:

  1. size
  2. moar physical controls per track (matters in live situation)
  3. project compatibility with 707 (707 projects will work on 101, but only first 4 tracks)
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Hi,
thinking of swapping the Verselab MV-1 for the MC 707. Turns out I’m more used to start from scratch with synthsounds then I thought.
And with sampling the waveform on the screen is needed, plus some more advantages.
Can anybody help me out with this:
On the MC-707: If I load a user sample as an oscillator and I play poly with it, will all notes be the same lenghth or will it behave the same way as when loading samples in a tone track, which is; higher notes are played faster, thus shorter so the notes of the chord do not end simultaniously (like it does on the MV-1). (Do not know how to ask more easily…).
Thanks in advance.

Yes they will play faster when played higher. You can add looppoints in the sample though as a workaround

o.k. thanks.

I’d welcome any thoughts you good people have about adding an MC-101 to pair with a Syntakt. I like my Syntakt a lot but there are some sound design gaps that I’m finding hard to fill like dub techno chords. It’s not a big criticism, no box does everything.

I previously bought an MC-101 and sent it back ASAP as I found it too fiddly as a self-contained groovebox but I just realised that I could drive it from the Syntakt with MIDI tracks and use the MIDI CC knobs to have faster access to parameters like cutoff, rez, filter envelopes etc. I liked the sounds a lot so perhaps the two boxes would complement each other and I have limited space but could definitely fit the 101 next to my Syntakt. I assume it could also draw power from the Syntakt USB port?

I was looking at a 707 but I think it’s overkill. I like the Elektron sequencer so hopefully a good pairing? I’m not keen on paying for any subscription so is that necessary to use the software editor? Not necessarily a blocker, but just good to know.

Yeah, the notes play shorter or longer up and down the keyboard when using a sample as an oscillator (i.e. chipmunk sound). I wrote a long post up thread about how to set up a tone track with user oscillators so it sounds good (it’s really noticeable on chords). There were sound demos and an example project attached.

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Great, will check it out.

Getting something to pair with the Syntakt is a great idea. And the MC-101 sounds are wonderful, and you’re familiar with them, so if that’s what you want, go for it! I don’t think it can take power from the Syntakt (both are peripheral, USB Type-B, plugs. They’re both meant to live on the other end of a computer, not connect to each other). But other than that, done deal. Don’t overthink it.

…but if you’re still reading, more than half the MC-101 is the sequencer. If you’re just going to be throwing that out in favor of the :3lektron:, you could get more bang-for-your-buck with a VA poly like the Micromonsta 2, something wavetable-y like the Blofeld, or one of the Modal Electronics desktops, if you have the space. Or even an analog poly like the Nymphs, or your pick of Roland Boutique.

I’ve been having tons of fun sequencing the little J-6 for that matter. Pairing its preset-based pads and arps with the MM2 for detailed (multitimbral!) sound design, and you’ve got a lot of anti-Syntakt sounds for less than an MC-101.

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Mc101 with syntakt should play really nice together. You got a small sampler and rompler and quite long pattern.
And let the drum and analog bassline for the syntakt.
I like really the MC for polyphonic stuff and it’s exactly what syntakt does not do.

If I had to play with those device, I would do this way :
Midi keyboard plug to midi in on mc101
Mc 101 as master clock
Syntakt as slave and receiving audio from mc101.

This way you can record polyphonic stuff from mc101 sequencer and record them on mc101.
Use all scene from mc101 easily.
Play syntakt in slave midi mode.

I there an easy way to shape a drum sound with filter (and envelope?) without having to menu dive deep into instrument edit?

I held a drum pad and turned the filter knob with no luck.

So many delays but not a single one with high-pass filter? Or am I missing something? :cold_sweat:

I think the editing parameters are only two or three levels deep. But yeah, you gotta dive in there. Nice that the screen doesn’t change when you switch from pad to pad though!

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