Yes. And the FM phase command also works.
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My M8 headless setup is complete now 
The journey can begin ā¦
Ooops, to get the num pad correctly working I had to rearrange the lower keys. This is not the best to prepare the muscle memory for the original M8. However, this setting works great:
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Iām having a hard time sequencing the OT from my M8. Iām surely missing something basic. 
In Project -> MIDI Settings Iāve set the following:
receive sync: off
receive transport: off
send sync: on
send transport: song
When I hit Play on the M8 the OT starts playing but stops a couple notes afterwards. All other MIDI tracks have been muted. What am I missing?
Iām sooo close to my perfect setup, please help 
Welcome to the forum!
Iāve only had the M8 for a little while and Iām not an expert. I tried out those settings with an OT and that muting thing didnāt happen to me ā it seemed like it was behaving in a pretty predictable way.
I also tried to change send transport to pattern and it also worked well. I think the difference between pattern and song are song position pointers. Are you by any chance advancing the OT to a place in the arrangement that has MIDI tracks muted? Have you tried starting the M8 at a different song position?
What happens if you try to change the send transport to pattern? Do you have anything set in the OT arranger? Also, what happens if you try a fresh OT project?
Sorry, more questions than answers! 
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Just ordered my m8 and hoping it lands this side of Xmas. Looking forward to learning and creating on the go! Have a Volca dawless set up at home for jamming but this looks like a whole new ball game. Hi everyone.
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I low-key got an M8 the other day and honestly, I have struggled to comprehend the interface. I have no experience of LSDJ and my only tracker experience is the Polyend Tracker, which I enjoyed but from which I moved on.
So yeah, Iāve had a tumultuous couple of days fighting with the phrases and chains and song mode and ignoring the tables for fear of my brain leaking out of my ears.
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Once the M8 clicks for you, it just clicks. Itās like understanding simple math. Once you get it, you get it. The M8 is like a language with logic and rhythm to it, which is so reassuring, because once you get it you can delve into new territories wherein everything is new, but the same logic and rhythm prevails 
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This video gives a nice overview of the layout and navigation
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Then Iām doomed. 
Seriously though, I know with time Iāll get it and already Iām blown away by the possibilities of this tiny device.
Thank you, I really appreciate it! Iāll give this my full attention shortly.
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I wish you strength to carry on. I gave up on it once and it was a mistake ā I think it can be a very nice counterbalance to more broad-stroke devices like the Push. Or OP-1. Or well, many things.
What I guess Iām saying is I know itās not easy, and Iām not over the hump myself, but I believe in the payoff 
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Ok. Listen. Sit with the m8, and just the m8, and learn to do ONE thing everyday. You will nail that after 20-30 mins of repeating (outside of Tables bc WTF is that all about lol).
To learn Patterns, Chains, and Song, IMO the best thing is to work on a dumb song. Ok, a REALLY dumb song that is simple and not for public consumption, so that you can just learn. For me Phrases and Chains has been one of the hardest to get used to because I am not used to having that extra layer between Songs and āpatterns.ā
Once the muscle memory kicks in you will be flyingā¦at least it got to that point with my number pad.
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If itās concepts (or advanced tips) youāre struggling with, thereās a thread of M8 tutorial videos:
Must see videoās for the Dirtywave M8?
The manual is also quite good if you havenāt downloaded it already
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I appreciate the support! Last night I said to myself āI have to sell this, I donāt need it, itās expensive, itās overly complicated for my needsā. But this morning I woke up and thought about what it does that nothing else I have can do, and how much those features could enrich my music. And so I decided to give it another couple of weeks at least.
I adore Ableton Live, but I donāt enjoy sequencing in it. Forsā Opal is the closest thing to enjoying sequencing in software, along with MDD_Snake, but even those are inherently disconnected from the things Iām sequencing. Thatās why I love Elektrons - everything feels so connected, so intrinsic. The M8 gives me that feeling of wonder I get from a powerful hardware sequencer, as well as the joy of directly controlling synthesis and sample parameters on a step-by-step basis.
So yeah, I will focus on one thing at a time and go from there. Today, Iām going to focus on sequencing a basic kick, snare, hi-hat and bassline pattern on four phrases, then create different versions of those phrases and chain them together. No tables, no song mode. See how I go.
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Thatās the way to do it! Spend a week doing this and youāll find the m8 way more comprehensible. Iām shocked at how quickly I learned when I broke it down into simple chunks (still struggling to remember some key combos, but that will come with time).
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ā¦and try sequencing some Live Drum Racks using the m8. Assign those MIDI CCs to Macros.
I heard thereās some guy here that makes some pretty good racks of sampled drum machines. 
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one thing that cracked it for me when learning the basics was said to me by an experienced user here.
donāt think you have to keep your chains & phrases numbered in some clean, organised way. it really doesnāt matter.
that had been frying my brain a bit, and when I was free to just copy & clone phrases n chains without thought I was flying.
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Youāll get it! All the advice here is spot on. The only thing Iād add is: not knowing how to do that one thing can be a total momentum killer. And even breaking down and simplifying your tasks, the M8 is chock-full one-thing-momentum-killers (esp. if new to LSDJ).
Despite my rant up-thread, Discord is really great for these little things. Hop on and ask whatever thing has you stuck. Itās better to keep moving than to stare at an unfamiliar UI and guess your way through it. This is one of those rare instances where repetition will serve you better than trying to untangle it from first principals.
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while it isnt necessary to stay organized, ive also benefited from building a template. build one by building your project and saving as TEMPLATE in the system folder i think
i have song phrases 10, 20, 30ā¦up to 80, set up so they have four bars in each phrase. in 10, i have phrases
10
11
10
12
for easy every other bar variation. got this setup from RMR.
that way when i want to start something new i dont have to fuss with all that set up. and i have my tracks more or less organized by the first digit so it lines up with the track number. that makes sampling external instruments a little easier to do too. helps me stay at least a little organized.
pardon the airplane pics, hopefully help clarify
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It is, but there are tons of undocumented M8 goodies in this thread too! I imagine there are even more in the Discord, but I never got around to setting up Discord.
Those Discord M8 Meet-up videos on YouTube seem to be full of undocumented tips tooā¦ Iāve probably only watched like an hour of them, and they were full of useful info.
@Claid I think it gets easier to use every time you sit with it. Iām an old tracker head, but had never used LSDJ, so Iāve definitely had some WTF moments, but they diminished every time I spent time with the M8. And when Iāve asked questions here I got great answers right away
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That must have been liberating, if you were trying to use some perfect numbering scheme! I like this advice. I number my empty and kill chains consistently, but thatās probably it.
Iāve tried the numbering thing and it doesnāt work out for me unless I already have a formed idea of what Iām going to make before I start ā thatās not always the case, because I feel like I ādiscoverā music more than I āwriteā it. Iāve tried the perfect number alignment, but then I inevitably end up somewhere else and it bothers me that I violated my own numbering system! 
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