Looping live instruments

OT Master, or use recorders + Flex to overdub.

Right… When you say OT master… You mean in regards to midi chains?

  • to not slave it after other gear?
    Have it as master slave to the other gear in the midi chain?
    Assuming this is a clock synch issue then… and how that connects to the audio buffering.
    Or have I missed something.

OT Master midi clock. Highly recommended if you want to make perfect records with OT, with sample unit precision.
If slaved, tempo fluctuations, wrong length, wrong loop, etc…and no overdub with Pickups (DUB ABORTED message).

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I’m just getting started with the OT, haven’t dove into the looping functions yet but I plan to. I would like to say a word on behalf of the SOUND of the looping device, and that being a factor in your decision. I find the OT has a great sound to it- much better than most looping pedals. The boomerang also has a nice sound. But I feel like basically everything I put in the Ot sounds better than before it got in there ;)))

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What do you mean by stopped supporting it?
I was just about to pull the trigger on the Disaster Area DMC 6 - Gen 3
It mentions in the specs it sends all sorts of midi commands out the midi out port.
Anyone else using it?

adding to sezare’s excellent advice…

If you do use slave pickup machines, keep the record length very short.

Any chance we could put together a list of Midi Foot Switch Pedals that work “without issue” with
the OT for control of the Pick Up machines etc?
Apparently - the Disaster Area Pedals no longer work.
Anyone had any luck with the MorningStar CM6 MKII?
When I talk about these pedals - I mean minimal classy pedals.
Not huge Boss Plastic pedalboards… :expressionless:
Any additions?

Source Audio - Soul Mate ?

I’ve used KMI Softstep 2 with KMI MIDI Expander w/ no issues

Yes. Works flawlessly.

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I’m using the Morningstar MC6 mk2 and it works great for controlling Pickups or Flex as well as crossfader. Fully programmable.

I was using a Moog MP-201 which also works perfectly, though hard to come by these days.

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Brilliant - It’s the one I originally had my eye on.
But then saw all the extra bits that come on the Disaster Area pedals and got distracted for a bit. Just wish these bad boys were a little cheaper :wink:

Looks like your upload isn’t available anymore - got anything else to show what it sounds like with that sort of setup? I’m considering moving from a Pigtronix Infinity to an OT for my electric cello


Guitar straight in OT, OT FX only so of course guitar sound can be better. No samples.

OT can be more than a looper, it can mangle incoming audio with fx and sample manipulation (pitch / reverse / start / length / retrig…) with its sequencer.
You can create bass, drums, synths just from incoming audio.

Guitar thru Analog Heat > OT, no samples.

Same patch, faster tempo.

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Answering you here, it a complicated subject.
I have to try again, IIRC I could do it with 2 recorders.

Without crossfade, a solution is to stop recording during overdub.

Did you try with Pickups?

Seems possible with Flex, I have to try again to describe the setup.

Would you describe what do you want to loop, how long, etc? A defined length would be ok?

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@ghostbuddy I could record nice loops with Pickups and switch to Flex flawlessly. Best of both words.

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I’ll have to look into pickup machines, couldn’t get smooth loops with flex machines. There was always either pops or fade outs & fade ins that were noticeable.

I tried Flex Overdub without inputs, it was clicky! As I told there is a possible crossfade workaround with 2 tracks but boring to setup.

With Pickups I could record seemless loops (defined length) and swap to Flex like a charm, with mangling possibilities.

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Well shit, that sounds great! Did you use any special settings for the pickup machines?

Nothing particular.
I used a defined length, to avoid tempo change.
Start loop with REC1(AB), stop overdub with REC2(CD) after a cycle minimum.

The only thing is to avoid to start or stop recording while playing, causing abrupt audio cut.

You can eventually use minimum FIN / FOUT.

You can also use QREC to quantize. You can set Flex before recording, ready to mangle!

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