Yikes! Logic for Mac is my daily driver, and I have never seen nor heard of volumes changing randomly. What causes it and what’s the workaround?
I’m only in the iOS one only occasionally, so I’m not a very good datapoint. But for what it’s worth, I haven’t seen any of the issues you mention there, either.
After a few seconds it just randomly drops. If you compensate on the fader then it’s fine but next time you open it it’s then way to high. There doesn’t seem to be a fix.
I’ve tested the new release and it does seem to be a bit better.
I haven’t had it crash out or delete any audio (although I’m not in the middle of a very complex project ATM) and the bug where the UI of the left hand menu gets messed up seems to have gone away.
My plan was to start projects on just the iPad and then hook it up to monitor etc at my desk to finish them, but at the moment it doesn’t work well for that. Because Logic doesn’t currently support multi window adding a monitor doesn’t let you have different things in different windows. and the UI is very much optimised for a small screen. Until they fix that working on a project with say 20 tracks and a decent amount of automation is annoying.
I think the workflow that will make sense is to start on the iPad and then move to a Mac once it starts getting complex. Unfortunately I don’t currently have a Mac.
Has anyone tried this and does it work with plugins if they are the same type? (for example Fabfilter)
I just got an ipad air 5th gen 11 inch yesterday and got cracking with logic pro. Really solid app, have very little to dislike so far. I get that working with more than 8 tracks could be painful in the UI, but tbh working with an ipad, it should be treated more like a very advanced groove box. I do see the value of the 13" ipads for music, although I love the portability of the 11".
Was nice to see my Audiofuse 16rig is fully recognised, meaning I can hook my whole hardware studio up like a proper DAW. Just trying to assess why I would do that, as my macbook with Reaper is clearly the best option. But there is no doubting that Logic on the ipad is a fun experience so far, and will def fill a void for music making on the go. Also loving Koala. Sadly Drambo doesn’t work with my audio interface, which is a shame.
Out of all these apps, I prob see myself using something like Koala and Drambo to sample into my hardware / provide creative workflows on top of my MPC workflow. Whereas Logic Pro will be something I use in the evenings when I’m on baby nightshifts or train journeys to work.
Drambo works with the Audiofuse when running via logic but not in its own app. I can live with that.
Had some quality time now to write a few draft tracks in Logic Ipad to get to know and really love it. At least in terms of appreciating how well Apple translated a professional daw experience to an ipad format. Like there are def more intuitive, creative solutions such as Drambo and Loopy Pro, that emerged purely in iOS. However, the ability to integrate some of these workflows into logic and eventually finalise on the mac version puts this overachine workflow on par, if not ahead, of Push 3.
I’ve owned MPCs, currently have a MPC4000, a Force and a Push 3 at different points. I’m extremely impressed with how well Logic works in ipad format. Note there is a learning curve, it’s not pick and play for first timers, but id say it’s a far more enjoyable experience once it clicks vs the daw version.
Currently using it with my launchpad pro mk3, the midi works perfectly and can record sequence ideas from the launchpad into the ipad logic. Sound and quality of the plugins I personally think runs circles around Abletons plugins, just a personal view. And editing the arranger is surprisingly nice, can get quite detailed…automation drawing with Apple Pencil is actually amazing. I can’t imagine MPC OS3 nailing the arranger better than what this ipad experience is tbh.
Only complaint is that i wish it had a song mode / follow actions to sequence the live loops. Hate triggering them myself. Also the last trigger scene should have some sort of pressed colour to help you see what you triggered last. Triggering 30 scenes into an arranger is actually a bit painful. Used to find this an issue in Ableton as well. Personal preference would be some sort of MPC style live loops scene sequencer (aka MPC song mode). But doubt that will happen.
Yeah, for me it’s the device that looks most likely to deliver the DAW in a box thing that a lot of people seem to be chasing. Because it actually is a (more or less) full DAW that’s designed as such. And the touch interface works great here - I got a 13" iPad Air recently to run it but it was also good on my previous 9th gen. Fine editing with an Apple Pencil feels really nice.
There are a few things that are holding it back for me right now, though. I use track and project alternatives a lot, kinda surprised that they’re not on the iPad version yet … hopefully are coming. For me this comes closest to the MPC thing of throwing a bunch of ideas against the wall quickly to see what sticks - that they’re pretty much killing in 3.0, but that’s another story - as well as Ableton clips.
I kinda hate the Live Loops mode in Logic, it never really feels right to me, but I guess it covers some of the same territory. But the real problem for me is compatibility of projects I’ve started on the computer and want to continue working on while commuting or on trips, etc. - aside from this issue the sync between Mac and iPad Logic is pretty seamless.
Other obvious gap for me is the ability to go in and edit smart tempo information - usually the automatic version is fine but not always. I really like the timing tools in Logic which is the main reason I use it as my final destination for material coming out of other software and hardware. iPad version is like 80% there, but I don’t see a reason why the full functionality wouldn’t be possible and work well at some point in the future.
But these are relatively minor points as against what it can do now. The step sequencer is ridiculously powerful, the quick sampler is as good as anything else out there. I will say that I do kinda prefer Ableton’s instruments and effects both in terms of how they sound and more so the range of weirder and wilder stuff, Logic’s offering is pretty vanilla although the sample library is good. I also do miss being able to put together performable custom instrument / effects racks, but that’s not what Logic is really about.
Would be more than enough if it was my only instrument, especially with stuff like Drambo, Koala and and third party au3s to expand it - at this point it would probably be my recommendation for people who are very into the “track from start to finish on one device that isn’t a laptop/desktop computer” thing. But personally I’m fortunate enough to have a bunch of other gear and in tandem with Push 3 / SP 404 etc it really takes things over the top.
Uh oh! I bought a basically brand new iPad Pro M4 11” off the local classifieds for a deal I couldn’t pass up. Primary interest: Logic Pro
And it delivers!
This is amazing and I think that logic (or maybe daw’s in general) can benefit so much from a touch workflow.
It’s so smooth to work on mounted above my keyboard in a ‘studio’ setting. But it’s also right at home on my lap. Using Logic’s step sequencer via touch is significantly more fun than mouse clicking and very much feels like a groovebox workflow.
I think the controller options are fun (the fretboard, chords and all that) but I do obviously yearn for real keys even in a portable setting, so I found that it’s also really enjoyable paired with the OP-1F, especially since the field can be used as an audio interface (in and out)
The OP-1F to me has to be the perfect portable pairing for the iPad. I do sometimes wish that there were an OP-1C or something that was just a sequencer, controller and audio interface. Ideally it would be cheaper, but also potentially more focused on controller features instead of the full standalone suite.
I wonder if Ableton will expand upon Note for iPad or not? I mean Logic for iPad is a full fledged daw, Note is more of an idea sketchpad. Maybe that’s enough for Ableton and there isn’t a real incentive to build out note b/c of their Push hardware?