there seems to be some lightning to USB adaptors available through usual outlets for a fraction of the cost of the apple one, anyone have any solid evidence about whether these do the same job ?
i’ll use it direct to A4 or via usb-midi to OT
Mixed evidence, but nothing midi specific or conclusive wrt ios7.1 ! anyone ?
I thought you need a usb-Host Interface,
nope, this is nothing that i can’t do already on my existing ageing ipad with a 30pin connector, using the apple dock>usb adaptor (aka CCK), this is just to check that third-party lightning gizmos are up to scratch given that there may be embedded electronics - the apple one will work as required direct from ipad to A4, just need to know if these chinese ones will ?
iirc from betatesting a few people had knockoff Lightning/USB adapters for MIDI and they worked.
sweet, it’s cheap enough to take a punt whilst counting the pennies now i have a mac mini and ipad mini on the way - the less i can throw apple’s way the better, it’s their doing that i’m forced to replace prematurely unusable kit - looking fwd to ios7 and mavericks, couple of steps missing from 5 and Snow Leopard computing at the TV might be fun too !
These adapters put your iPad/iPhone into host mode. it is call USB On The Go (OTG)
I would stay away from adapters which are multi functional and make sure it is a cable, like apple one, and not a little hard box like I have seen many of on eBay
These adapters put your iPad/iPhone into host mode. it is call USB On The Go (OTG)[/quote]
Cool thanks, yeah I saw the description on some of them as OTG and hadn’t appreciated until i read your namm post on the other thread what it was - it got me momentarily curious wondering whether one of those generic usb>usb OTG cables could somehow be hacked to make the A4 play with a midi keyboard in the right way, conceptually it is all wrong of course and there’s no evidence to sustain the notion - the kenton usb host must be pricey for a reason beyond a grounded pin ! surely somebody has made the minimum circuit to do the connection and host two usb devices with Type A, it’s got to be cheaper to DIY than to resort to a Raspberry Pi
on the other hand, I bought a cheap (non-Apple) lightning CCK to connect to a USB MIDI cable (E-Mu 1x1) and had zero success. Nothing would work and the iPad 4 didn’t recognize it. Returned it, bought an Apple version and it worked perfectly immediately.
If the 3rd party vendor has implemented workarounds for the security in the Apple cable, then the 3rd party version should work, but given they can’t exactly advertise this, it’s kind of a crapshoot.
very weird I have a bunch of chines knockoffs they all work and and old MOTU 1X1 which works, are you on iOS7?
very weird I have a bunch of chines knockoffs they all work and and old MOTU 1X1 which works, are you on iOS7?[/quote]
Yes - iOS 7 on an iPad 4. I think the security ‘feature’ in the lightning connector was always there and it only was checked starting with iOS 7.