Korg Arp 2600M

I’ve had my mouse over the buy button at SW … I think i’m at peace letting it go to a better home as I fear it will lead me down the modular rabbit hole :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Congrats to those that scored a deal!

Also, Detroit modular claims in stock at $1599, and Adorama claims in stock at $1999.

Sweetwater is done. Congrats to whoever picked up the last one!

Great, now I’m going to get double candy in my next SW order. Which means the next person who buys used gear from me gets at least three bags of candy. :rofl:

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Okay this is getting out of hand.

Someone’s going to FOMO the Adorama 2600 instead of a Cascadia. I envy their first hour meeting their new 2600, but not the rest of their year.

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Yeah, I’ve already got a 2600. Thanks for the reminder. Love the packaging though.

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Just received my 2600M. I was surprised / not surprised by the “flight case.” There are plenty of comments here, on MW and youtube calling it a good, robust, well built suitcase. I can only assume those commenters have never experienced commercial air travel.

The case is your basic injection molded clamshell case with four spinner wheels. The wheels and casters a nice and chunky, but the “structure” of the case is the plastic shell, which feels just like the ~$20 cheap luggage you can buy at discount outlets around the world. Worse, the zipper is secured to the shell by a single line of stitching.

My wife has a similar case for travel, and hers burst part of the stitching on its first flight. After that, she stabilized the case with a strap.

I’ll hang on to the case for resale value and home storage. If I ever need to ship the 2600 anywhere, it will go into the case, the case will be strapped, and then the case will be packed inside another box. I absolutely would not trust the included case for shipping!

My expectations were low - as far as I can tell, only soft luggage is still built with an internal frame, so that’s what I use for travel. The “hard” shell cases have the structural integrity of a milk bottle, but often with thinner walls.

Incidentally, the jacks require relatively little pressure to insert or remove patch cables, so the plastic nut issue is probably a non-issue.

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How many patches you make so far ?

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In my mind? Thousands. In reality, I have some stuff to do around the home before I can power up the 2600.

Edit: I have played the five tones.

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lol so much commentary on the case but hasn’t turned the synth on yet! :rofl:

fwiw, I agree on the case: I wouldn’t fly with it. it’s fine to gig with though. although really, I guess technically it flew to you in little more than that… anyway, it was probably silly of Korg to make it look like a suitcase intended for flight, when it’s probably not robust enough for that. I always viewed it as sort of an homage to the FS and the original, which both had case options. with the core units (i.e. excluding the insane FS flight case) being nothing more than gig-able cases as well.

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At least he’s commenting on something with which he’s had physical contact, unlike the comments directed at the 2600M and Korg back in early 2021. :wink:

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not sure what you’re referring to. please tell me you’re not on about the nuts again… :roll_eyes:

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Was not referring to your comments in particular from that time period.

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I did not say anything about plastic nuts this time. People were complaining about things - other than nuts - related to this product and company much earlier in the thread.

I found those old posts while looking for cool 2600M videos. I just thought those old comments were amusing. Not interested in calling out particular people over the past though. If you want to revisit them just click Jan 2021 on the right and scroll.

I’m probably going to end up building a laser-cut plywood “cover” that works something like how I imagine the original cover works, or how I imagine a decksaver would be designed. It turns out that the jacks and speakers mildly trigger my wife’s trypophobia, so I need to do something about that.

As far as sound goes:

The 2600m sounds good, and it feels good too. It feels more premium than the Syntrx (which is a great synth, but the metal panels feel flimsy and I worry about rubbing off the silkscreening). Although the 2600 is more immediate than the Syntrx due to its normaled signal path, more effort and study is required to understand the normaling. I went deep faster with the Syntrx, but expect to discover and learn new things with the 2600.

Much like the Syntrx, the speakers sound surprisingly good for their size.

As far as size goes, it’s a little bit bigger than the Syntrx and is probably the largest soundmaking device I own that isn’t a keyboard. All of the controls are easy to manipulate, I usually wear large men’s gloves. If you have kielbasa fingers, it might be worth chasing down a FS. For everyone else, the m seems like the right size.

The nuts are fine. :joy:

I was mildly worried about the PCB mounted jacks, but these jacks don’t require a great deal of force - unlike most of the cheap jacks I used when building Euro modules.

TL;DR: at $1200, the 2600m is a really good value. If you are deeply in love with the 2600, then $2k or more wasn’t unreasonable for this synth. I would have been unhappy if I paid for the LE version and got a silver version of the same case. If I were to gig the 2600 (doubtful), I’d get one of the rolling Pelican cases for it.

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BTW, it looks like Detroit Modular dropped their price. Not quite as low as Sweetwater, but it looks like the lowest price outside of Reverb:

(FYI @jdaddyaz)

They also have the FS for only $6k. If I was a synth investor, I’d probably jump on that. I’m pretty sure they have changed hands for more than that on MW already.

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Glad to hear about the nuts :rofl:

Seriously though glad to hear the speakers sound good.

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why’s that? don’t like silver? or you think it’s flimsier because there’s a cutout for the keys too? that’s actually the version I have been referring to, as it’s what I have. note that I’m not offended by your comment, I’m just curious. I don’t plan on using the case unless I move, so I don’t care either way! :rofl:

SWEET! I’d love to see this!

they really do! I’m amazed by them actually. I do get distortion sometimes, but usually that’s my own fault for just cranking everything.

this is interesting to me, because I still get confused by the Syntrx “circular patching” style. but I’ve also had a 2600 for like 15 years, so it’s second-nature to me.

probably. but the last one I saw sell over there sat for months at sub-$4k. which astounded me. :flushed:

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The black case has a cut out for a keyboard or SQ-64 as well. My concern is the overall flimsiness of the case. Great for studio storage, might be fine for dragging to a gig in Tokyo or another city with extremely well maintained streets and sidewalks. At the moment, I’m treating the case itself as the fragile collector’s item - it is stored in the closet with its protective shipping cover.

Keep track of the thread below, where I’m adding my laser cut audio stuff as I go. I may build a patch cable rack before I build the 2600m cover.

I find the Syntrx easy because it doesn’t do anything I didn’t ask it to do, and I can look at the patch matrix to see what I’ve asked it to do. I probably won’t even need 15 days to get fully up to speed with the 2600. If someone is on the fence between the 2600 and Syntrx, I think the decision is too personal for me to offer useful advice.

(apologies for the generally low quality - I used the on-camera mic and lowest possible resolution and the Canon M6 doesn’t offer any focusing aids for video)

Plays nicely with friends.

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That’s a cool synth. Congrats.

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One of the reviews - Stazma’s? - recommended investing in shorter, colored patch cables, as the stock cables are all grey and long enough to hang over, say, the included keyboard if you park the keyboard next to the 2600M.

Thinking of ordering these but I welcome suggestions