Anyone who has used both kick 2 and punchbox have a preference? I am looking for a plugin to help simplify my sample layering and sub creation (pitched sine or what have you) when I am making a kick on the computer.
I use kick2, it has 3 sample click layers + eq + compreasor, pitchbend, you actually have to experiment quiete a bit, but it can make anything from house to techno, Dubstep kicks one of the best purchases ever. I put that sample then in OT, MPC or Rytm for further processing, its also good for more harmonic kicks, that you use at ghost notes, or just to create sub samples you layrer. I make extra click layers from analog synth to feed it. Buy it!
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Kick2 for your easy to get kicks that can also do other sounds with a little work.
Punchbox is capable of making a wide assortment of drum sounds a little easier.
Downside with Punch Box is its really easy to go off course when trying to get a straight forward kick. So for straight kicks I use Kick2.
For the slightly off the beaten path stuff, I use Punch box.
You could easily make a whole song using sounds you got off of Punchbox.
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A lessor known little gem is Steinberg Backbone. You can load samples into it and it will deconstruct the noise/transient elements from the tonal elements. Ace. I like to copy the noise element layers from snares and then mess em up a bit and then pan them hard left and right for sick stereo snares. Huge. All the layers have envelopes to mess with the pitch, amplitude, filter, and some formant and timing stuff too. It also does some AI stuff where it will generate variations of a sound/sample too. It’s a pretty crazy vst. only downside I’ve found is I don’t know where or how to save a preset… but it’s not that big of a deal because you can drag your newly created sound right into your timeline and the .wav saves with the project.
Edit: the built effects and routing capabilities are pretty extensive as well. Fun.
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I use Kick. One thing I like to do is take a sample of a kick I like, load is as a click, and then recreate the kick using the sub.
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So the answer seems to be that I need both plus some other vsts I didn’t even know about ;-P. Backbone does sound pretty cool.
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I have only Kick2 because it’s unique features like you can literally draw any curve into it, meaning you create your own multi-stage attack/decay curves and whatnot, sometimes it can be tedious process but it’s what’s unique about it, the click layers etc are convenience but not necessity, as the same can be achieved with simple drum rack.
any other kick dedicated synth I avoid because I’d rather use a synth to generate kicks, or just use samples for 808/909.
one more thing unique about Kick2 is the option to export the audio from the plugin without the need to record it, very handy feature when you make small tweaks and want to throw two/three samples side-by-side for comparison.
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Don’t demo backbone. I demoed it and then I had to have it.
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