Hi everyone,
I’m a big issue with latency recording syntakt into ableton with overbridge. Every sound is slightly off grid by a tiny amount, a few milliseconds. Unfortunately, I only realized this during a Mixing & Mastering session with an Engineer, and we had to move everything back to the grid to adjust that off-time.
I’m now working on a new track and still have the same issue. I’m using Ableton 11, Overbridge, have the Syntakt selected as the Audio Output device and the Buffer Size set at 128, which should be low enough.
Any ideas on how to solve this? Couldn’t quite figure out searching on the Forum whether this is a general issue if everything is set up correctly.
I’d really appreciate any help you can offer. This is so frustrating!
Thanks in advance,
J.
did this thread help?
i searched for ‘latency compensation’ …
Ah didn’t think of searching for compensation, good call there bud. Will test the recommendations on that thread later today and report back here.
Thanks!
So I tried that and unfortunately it didn’t make any difference. The recording is still of a by a few seconds. Monitoring is set to off, buffer size 128.
Any other ideas of what could be going on here?
Is that buffer size the one in ableton or overbridge … control panel ?
Otherwise I don’t know.
On Ableton
So a small update here. I wrote with Elektron and they said that +1 ms can be expected, but that it can be a good idea to just record through the Interface directly, in my case the apollo twin x duo.
I’ve tried this, and both are messy.
When using overbridge, there’s a stable +/-3 ms delay, but the signal is, as you know, really low. So I have to compensate by adding an utility plugin in ableton to bring it up 12db.
If I use the apollo twin x. duo, I can add a preamp, which gives it a nice texture and volume, BUT: The latency is, for some strange reason, not steady. So around the 4th beat it starts getting worse. Meaning I can’t just shift the whole clip slightly to the left, but would have to quantize everything, far from ideal.
Last but not least, if I record solely through the apollo twin x duo, it becomes a giant mess to try to get the clock right between the syntakt and the ableton, as they’re just simply not 100% in sync (selecting the syntakt as midi input and output).
Any thoughts, experience, ideas? Going crazy here.
Thanks in advance!
Do you know what Sample Accurate Clock is or how to use it?
It does require the addition of another device, but basically instead of using OB, or even MIDI Clock coming from the computer, it takes the Audio output from the computer which is accurate to the sample rate and won’t drift. Then it converts that into MIDI Clock or other sync protocols. There still maybe some very minor latency build up outside of the computer depending on the sequencers used, but the latency won’t “drift”. Meaning, it will be a “stable” latency that can be corrected by adjusting to position of the track or using Latency Compensation recording features. Some Sample Accurate Clock devices even have latency adjustment outside of the box, but those are more useful for real-time performances. Recording latency is easier to compensate for as long as it is stable.
Google search ‘Sample Accurate Clock’ and you should find couple devices that do this right off the bat. There are like 5 of them out there (disclosure: I make one of them).