Is this possible on an Octatrack Mk2?

[AgeOfAnthony]

Hello All,

Beginner question.

When editing longer samples, I generally scroll the start point somewhere near the end of the sample so that I can quickly set the end point. If you set the start point first, you have to listen to the entire sample to check if the end point is set correctly.

On the Octa the start point and end point are coupled such that moving the start point back to the beginning of the sample also moves the end point. This is obviously not desirable in the workflow I described above.

Is there any setting to unlink or decouple the start and end points on an Octa?

Thanks, and Happy Holidays everyone.

[Cemat]

Hi Anthony. Welcome!
I’ve just check the manual to be sure and it’s unfortunate but « Moving a start point will also move the end point. »
The manual doesn’t state any workaround, but Elektronauts folks might know one @cruffoc ?

[cruffoc]

make another smaller slide just to audit the section of audio you are trying to locate, you can use the start or end of this auxiliary slide to set a temporary marker. Then you can go with a second slide knowing where your end point is. Dont forget deleting the aux slide.

[Clancy]

Preview the loop point/end of long sample in a hurry

Hey I got a better workaround for previewing the end of a long sample in the editor (for when you’re working on the loop position, for example): Go into slices trig mode, but have slices OFF for that track. Make sure your pattern scale is set to 64/64 (you can use ‘per track’ scale mode if you don;t want all tracks at 64) Use the pattern page button to go into bar 4:4 Go into the sample editor with your long sample (one that would normally be a pain to listen to all th…

[Clancy]

What I actually do in practice though:

Octatrack trim

Use a scene with rate at -64 on left side of crossfader so you can use it as a rewind to go quickly to end of sample I usually make it pitch +12 as well so that it rewinds faster (timestretch off)

[GurtTractor]

Yeah either assign rate to a scene, or you could use the start parameter and set that to 120 or whatever to quickly get to the end part.

Another quick tip which may or may not be useful to you: If you push the Level encoder in while in the audio editor it moves the view to the play head, and it will automatically move the view as it goes through a sample or when you scan through with the crossfader. Useful for very long samples. It can be a bit tricky to just push the encoder button without turning it though.

[PAPANOONGAKU]

How “long” are these samples? Are you using the OT to play stems? If so there may be ways to make setup easier (although not to get around your issue with having to listen to the whole thing. Definitely a pain if it’s a four minute stem.

[AgeOfAnthony]

Wow, thanks for all the super clever ideas. I’m definitely going to try out each one of them.

I actually thought of another as well.

Here are the steps

1-find the Start Point
2-Crop the sample
3-Move the Start point near the end
4-Set the End Point
5-Move the Cursor(not the Start Point) to the beginning of the sample
6-Use “Set Start Point Here” command
7-Crop the sample

I’m sure someone will find one of these ideas beneficial.

Thanks everyone!

[GurtTractor]

Oh yeah I had meant to mention that you can do the “set start point here” thing but forgot.

[AgeOfAnthony]

Hey, np
I appreciate the help
Ty

[cruffoc]

this is just simple genius btw. thx so much