Is the Noise Level normal for the analog Rytm MK2?

Hello,

Somebody interested in my Analog Rytm Mk2 told me it’s noise is to loud and the noise it does when you change the compressor volume and the dry/wet is due to a hardware Problem. Elektron Support told asked me if “Is this not related to how the compressor amplifies the noise floor when amplified and enabled?” . I actually have no idea. Here is a video that shows “the Problem” https://youtube.com/shorts/K8F-FQQl7Zc?si=37maiecjmZ6JmHQx

Can some one tell me if it is normal or should I send it in as it is just 10 Months old?

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Previously on Elektronauts …

tl:dr
There’s a lot of analog amplification going on in the circuits. If you boost levels noise is inevitable. Actually it makes the AR a beast full of character when making use of it creatively. If you want noise-free, go digital. :wink:

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So is the behavior u see in the video normal? (like that the noise goes from loud to zero when dry/wet of compressor changes from 55 to 56)

The video doesn’t tell me much tbh. I see you boosted make up gain quite high which naturally raises the noise floor. That’s all I can say.

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on the X1 Recorder u can see the incoming sound level. You can see the noise getting louder when I turn the dry/wet knob. But from like 55 the noise gets killed.

If you are not sure, get in touch with Elektron support and provide as much step-by step details about your setting as you can. I am very sure this can’t be limited to just the compressor settings alone. Still I am not convinced I am seeing unusual behaviour here as far as I could tell from the very shaky video.

Also might happen that someone more knowledgeable in here comes up with another view.

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Pretty sure it’s normal for the Rytm. It’s very likely related to how it “cuts” at high volumes, especially if you work the make-up gain.

I forget the details, but there’s a relationship between the compressor and the symetry/distortion. It’s quite easy to push levels into the zones where all the information (variance) in the signal is happening above the level the compressor is linited to. Setting the compressor up like they did (especially with the make-up that high) and then bringing in the compressed sognal with the wet/dry could push the level up that high.

You can sometimes bring it back with the symetry control on the master distortion page.

Or turn everything down a bit before the compressor. The compressor is much more efffective when fed a signal that’s rich in dynamics and not already near peak.

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not a problem at all, with high MUP as you have this sounds like a good healthy noise.
if you want to reduce noise you don’t need to use that much MUP but to have higher levels from the tracks.
also the master distortion adds a lot of noise.
also if your reverb is on high level it will bleed into the noise regardless if you actually send anything through it.
also remember that the analog compressor is digitally controlled, as in one digital step does not equal linear compressor reaction.

the noise is just fine, to reduce it you need to figure out your gain staging and have less master distortion and compressor make up gain.

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Absolutely normal in the Analog Rytm

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Nah, they just didn’t want to buy it. They might only be used to digital compressors.

It’s important to check the Amplitude Envelopes of the Tracks. If the voices’s amps are [unnecessary] open even without/after producing sound, then you have a ton of noise building up.

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to add to that, the reverb track is actually adding noise too if set to pre-comp, even when inactive and nothing in the buffer, so if noise is a problem for you - mind the reverb level.

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