Let’s try again:
Does that clear it up?
Not to mention that an actual AGI would almost certainly be a person in its own right.
The techbros don’t just want workers, they want slaves.
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Seems to me like all the evidence suggests that without a paradigm shift in the approach that will probably require starting again from square one, these models have already peaked. Throwing more data and processing power - with the energy and environmental costs that come with - isn’t bringing about material improvements. Rather than leading inevitably to AGI, it looks far more likely that the current VC “AI” bubble is going to pop sooner rather than later with a glorified semi-accurate autocomplete system as its crowning achievement. And it’s not going to be pretty.
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This is a typical idea based on a slight misunderstanding of what the core coding skill is. Not having to deal with the peculiarities of syntax and such is not as big a deal as people make it to be.
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Don’t know, to be honest don’t care really. I just like to tinker with the physical hardware. I assume that because most modern synths are mostly software anyways it wouldn’t make a difference sound-wise, but still…I like the tactile thing, having an actual music making machine in front of me instead of a PC. A physical synth with actual specialized hardware for that purpose. Yeah, the PC synths take up less room, bundled into one device, compact, easily upgradeable…but for me it’s not the same experience. As for smart programs making the music for me…that defeats the purpose for me of having musical devices in the first place. I don’t mind things like chord helpers on an Oxi One (as an example), it doesn’t really write my music but helps me in gaining abilities. Haven’t used Euclidean yet, but am I correct when saying it just simply does a ‘amount of steps divided by amount of requested pulses = the spacing of each pulse’ thing? Anyway, I digress…so for me, dedicated hardware for the win 
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Not to mention that a complete and accurate specification of a program is harder to write than the code itself.
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Ok. I’ll check back in each year. With keen interest.
Even for the simpler stuff I do, I need to know how to code to prompt out useful code from a LLM. A couple of times it has been frustrating even: the LLM was not following my detailed instructions but enforcing it’s “solution” ignoring that the piece of code must work in an already functioning workflow.
These are super useful to me, but still really far from the Iron Man Jarvis assistant that I dream.
I don’t know if a LLM that makes you feel it understands but has Is predefined trained biased constrained space of responses is a good resource for creative purposes. I imagine they spilling out all around the same kind of outputs, just like they do with code, images, sounds, etc…
Deal.
“Is 2025 year that the software instrument market shrinks?”
Most definitely, reason being: I’m back to buying hardware synths 
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This is genuinely insightful and something a lot of people on gear forums should spend time contemplating, including myself.
Delving into the YouTube comments is always a mistake but the comments section of this video was particularly awful.
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Yes
The saturation market is oversaturated
And the UK is outta GAS
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Not quite, we have enough for 1 more week apparently!
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Sorry I’m late. And forgot to check on in this.
Where we at?
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Have you checked? Last I heard it’s only been marginal.
ah i see, sorry i thought you were a user. in which case my words will just be words to you. as they were a year ago.
yourself and @thermionic were adamant it was lost cause and things had peaked/weren’t going anywhere. seems the opposite.
Seems we’re still right, though. No big, accelerating, gigantic shift regarding LLMs and plugins like you predicted. No signs of it ever happening either. And I think it was @thermionic and I, don’t think @benway was part of this convo.
LLMs still suck 
See you in a year?
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ha yeah sorry @benway i missed @
i’ve seen several audio tools crop up here and elsewhere. and if you think they’re not being used in development by teams… then ok 
I find the free new software synths in Logic Pro software to be quite excellent. I use with Nektar controller and MIDI keyboard. But I still prefer hardware synths.
Yeah, some might vibe code a thing or two. That’s a far cry from your earlier statements regarding it being an industry wide threat or something. We’d be flooded by open source projects by now. Where are all the open source projects?