Anyone know if it’s possible to host Xequence inside AUM? Or do I need to manage them as separate apps and separate projects?
With IAA, yes. Xequence 1 & 2 will work. The ideal situation is as I mentioned earlier, with AUM and Audiobus. Xequence has a section in the manual called “Demo Projects” and if you scroll down a few pages in that chapter there is a section called “ Using Xequence + Audiobus + AUM together.” This gives a great walkthrough on connecting the three to create a stable workflow. Ps, it works with Xequence 1 & 2. Link:
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Not inside an AUM channel strip, but as mentioned, it’s easy enough to use Xequence and AUM together and this is covered in the Example Setups section of the manual that was posted.
So far I’ve been getting on fine with using Xequence and AUM but will probably add Audiobus to my workflow, for the reasons stated in the Xequence 2 manual.
Apps that are loaded into an AUM channel strip tend to look noticeably smaller than when run standalone. Xequence 2 is more of the kind of app that you want to take the full screen, especially when you’re doing a lot of MIDI editing and rearranging.
I like gadget exactly because of this. The UI feels usable, and as a quick sketchpad its a fun bit of kit.
I do find auria fiddly at times, but since I dont have a computer to fall back on (at home), I just use it for what I need to and move on.
I do share many sentiments with you wrt “iOS as a musical device”. But the practicality of the 10" slate is woth the hassle for me personally. I dont have to specifically plan to take it along with me when I leave the house.
Good idea, to focus only on using the DN. My advice would be to just learn how to record DN audio into your iPad multitrack recording app of choice, and save the idea of routing audio out from iPad to Analog Heat and back to iPad for later.
Get the basic stuff to work first before adding complicating factors.
That said, here’s an idea… Look into converting your DN synth tracks to MIDI tracks. What I mean is, get your DN to those long chord progressions that you mentioned as MIDI. Then you can use Xequence 2 on iPad to record those chord progressions… as MIDI. I have no idea, however, about how hard it is to convert a synth track in DN to a MIDI track. If it’s a true PITA then feel free to ignore the rest of my post.
Once those chord progressions have been recorded into Xequence 2 as MIDI, you can edit them - as MIDI - however you like. You can MIDI timestretch them, copy-paste, transpose, whatever. X2’s workflow for editing MID is unbelievably fast and smooth - superior to Cubasis or Gadget imo.
When you’re ready to record those chords as audio, just have Xequence 2 sequence your synth of choice (DN or iPad app) and record the audio of that synth.
completely agree
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With Multitrack daw. Does the abelton link ( Which I think it has ) Allow you to place the audio track of something that were sequenced in xequence 2 and then press play. which will trigger the audio track in daw and sequences in xequence?
This is Multitrack DAW. No MIDI. No Ableton Link.
Somebody on that thread I posted today asked about how to trigger audio from Xequence 2. There were a couple of suggestions - one being use the Audiolayer app by I think Virsyn, or was it SugarBytes. And a cheap bastard alternative - sorry I really did forget the cheapskate alternative. Check out the thread.
Hi. When you have all sequences that make up a track in xequence but you wish to adjust the sound, with filters and everything, that can change the sound of the instrument. You can record individual tracks in AUM, ready to export to multitrack daw. How can you play back say the first recording of a stem or individual track just recorded, with the unrecorded xequence tracks?
Thanks.
So to sample then use abelton link. Might just be better to try and tweak everything and record at the same time. Mind you. I dont even know what Im on about. Thanks though.
Honestly I don’t know how to play only one track in Xequence 2. I’m still learning how to use it.
Best to ask on that thread in AB forum.
No one has mentioned Nanostudio 2 yet. It’s pretty damn slick. I really haven’t been using it at all until recently but it seems like it will become one of my go to music tools.
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It doesn’t record audio though. Midi and samples only.
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Stumbled across Mr. Blaschke’s post about how to trigger a sample in AUM from Xequence. Even has pictures for the visuallly-oriented learners. As he notes later, this is for a very basic use - one-shot sample. Anything more sophisticated, take a look at Audiolayer
Continuing the discussion from Ipad DAW?:
SunVox is pretty amazing, but I’m just dipping my toes into it. And am unsure if it would meet your requirements.
iPad is an amazing music making device, but it’s no laptop. It’s more of a modular plug this into that kind of device, route this to that and see where it goes open ended sort of thing. Traditional DAW, not so much. But, some people seem to be able to use it as such.
Fabfilter, audio damage, and AUM is pretty slick. I enjoy working with au3 as there is less screen sliding which gets distracting really quickly.
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I have a fond appreciation of Caustic 3 for android. It’s pretty filthy.
G-Stomper is pretty neat also.
SunVox is indeed amazing, and cross-platform just like Caustic, so you can use it on Android, your desktop (doesn’t matter what OS), etc. The synth modules have a distinct tonality that I dig.
The OP seemed kind of overwhelmed though. He hasn’t posted since the OP. I had to watch several SunVox videos before I could start doing anything on it so it’s not the quick starter that he might be looking for. The sequencers are pattern-oriented. I’ve heard there’s a way of recording linear sequences on it instead of just looping patterns but I have yet to learn how to do that. But it does deliver a lot of power for the low price (free on desktops, a few bucks on IOS/Android.
Wow, thanks for all the responses and discussion. Governor silver is right in that it is all slightly overwhelming in terms of scope and depth of options - and this is something I really wanted to get away from when I first ditched the desktop and moved to Elektron and outboard only. Its more important now grabbing an hour here and there after kids-bedtime-relentless-tidy-up-chat-with-wife-time.
With that in mind, Papertiger’s reponse struck a chord and I simply want to simplify my already simple-ish setup to make making music more immediate and with hard limits, but with options for audio which are obviously not available with the DN only.
I was lucky that when discussing this with a mate, he mentioned (and happily loaned me) his hated - and oft publicly maligned - Akai MPX16 as a potential solution.
Having mastered the MPX’s features (about 4 I think) in a hour, it really does fit what I need pretty well.
It can very quickly record a long-ish stereo sequence from the DN, assign it to a midi note (locked to CH1, for some reason), and trig this from the DN using a trig condition for timing / looping. Its polyphonic so I don’t lose the tail (a bugbear about OT is assigning 2 tracks to 1 sample to eliminate this!).
Reverb is serviceable, and I can load / resample loads of other samples into it for additional trigging.
I route as such: DN>MXP (for sampling only)>DN>Analog Heat = pretty simple.
It can also switch off monitoring which allows external resampling - i.e., running the audio out of the MPX to ext effects and recording back in - although there’s a bit of messing around to do this.
The MPX is very plasticy and cheap, it colours (dulls) the sound a bit as well. Screen is crap, and editing options are limited at best. It also doesn’t get around having to pattern chain on the DN to make songs, but I’m used to that now (write them down) and there is something nice about being uncoupled from a time line in terms of making edits to patterns to add variety / progressions, etc.
However, the speed of sampling for this is great, and as it just a soundbank essentially, it pairs really well with the DN’s midi.
The OT has now been boxed and hidden away for a few years until I get some time back.
I response to the advice, the IPAD has great apps for music and I will defo give some of the suggestions a go. Sunvox looks very interesting but seems a bit of head-scratcher - I will check it out though.
Again, thanks for the responses - they helped in making the right decision for me.
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