Creating multisamples is a lot of work. I don’t want to devote that effort to a single device. So I build my library on the computer and convert it for the respective device as needed. Thanks to the awesome user-created tools, this only takes a few mouse clicks. Currently, I use my sample library with TV and OP-XY, but I want to retain the freedom to use them for other devices in the future.
And yes, of course, you can record very long samples with TV and save yourself the trouble of proper sustain looping. Since I don’t like to waste memory space in general, this is just a unsatisfactory workaround for me. It’s oldschool thinking, I know
My issue w/ TV autosampler (on top of noise floor / sometimes wonky start points) is that if for instance I want to create a big Prophet pad that goes on and on I can either:
use the autosampler and set length to something absurd like 12s, depending on velo layers and number of samples per range could result in something like 250MB
build a multisample on my laptop with loop points and 3s length = 30MBish
For an instrument that takes ages to load projects (and one on which you have to re/load projects a bit more often than on other Elektrons) this is definitely a big factor.
All fair. I‘d rather sit half an hour with my Tonverk and synths and sample directly into TV than using a PC for 15 minutes to do the same. I also much prefer to sample the sound as is instead of having to think about seamless loop points etc. I won’t load more than one long pad patch per bank and have virtually endless space on TV, so loading time and space is not an issue. If I want pads that are longer and more varied, I’d always just hook up a synth. I agree that noise and latency can be a bit of a problem.
I’d love to buy one of these at some stage. Unless travelling where I’ll use standalone for full productions - in my studio I will use it as two mono signal complex FX chains via its two analog inputs, and then more channels if Overbridge eventually allows.
But in the case of using it as two mono fx chains;
I’ve read there is some latency regarding audio being processed, is this large enough to cause an issue if trying to process rhythmic sounds, in that they will be playing out of time against the dry version? (I’ll likely have the dry signal being recorded seperately and would ideally like to have the Tonverk FX fully wet).
Feels inevitable to an extent, and I can imagine not fixable via an update, as of course it’s using DSP so there will be some latency.
But thought I’d ask if anyone else is using as an FX box and what your experience has been with when doing so, when it comes to latency.
Hi Dave, I’ve played live with the Tonverk twice so far, more deep house stuff. Can’t recommend it enough for live. I use it in a similar way but i run digital sax through the input. No audible latency at all I’ve noticed but i used delay and reverb. Also i run synths / drum machines / etc into the input in studio, no issues. Plan to do the same for some of my techno soon.
Just my take:
TV can have a bit of a very ‘high quality’, rich sound next to the more raw chunkiness of my digitakt but that might be because i use mostly stems / samples in the digitakt. For deep house it’s excellent on its own. For techno I feel it really shines with a companion or two so you’ll probably get on ok.
