Do you imply Elektron will raise the prices once the product is finished?
A bold strategy, but an even bolder one to do so without making it transparent. I‘d expect a massive shitstorm if they did that.
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Yes, since it currently doesn’t support looping.
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Well thats just dumb. Cant see why they wouldnt add looping for this since the single machine has crossfading and looping points to play sustained note
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Well the device is released but we (now officially) have no idea what its limits will be.
Not sure how I’m supposed to justify buying it.
Elektron has almost always raised the prices of their gear. It’s not an implication, it’s what they actually do.
Pretty much every new piece of gear now is a public beta. Ableton push3 another good example. Every review says “will be fixed in a future firmware update”. It’s semantics at this point.
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Yes & if you want a long release after that you will have to sample longer to provide the audio for the release stage
As auto-sampling to build multisamples is getting more popular maybe some clever ideas will come along to solve the issues that come up in various scenarios
For example, if you have the filter following the envelope and you have some release on there, it’s hard to capture that on your multisample because in a sample playback context that filter movement is essentially a second audio event to be triggered when you let go of a key.
LFO modulation that’s free-running is similar. Maybe you can build it in again on the playback device, but if you really like the slow filter movement you have on your synth and it’s filter, that’s not going to be happening on the multisample
Sample and hold modulations too…
Fun problems to tackle though…
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While I think some companies are particularly egregious, i’m sympathetic to these software devs because software is outrageously complicated.
No amount of internal QA can catch every bug.
source: i am a software dev 
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Yep. People want every feature under the sun but also expect the machines to have everything perfect out of the box before released. If that happened, they would be complaining that elektron hasn’t released anything they can buy in years. You can’t win.
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Easy. You buy it if you want what it does today and what it has been pledged to do by next week.
Some of us are having enormous fun with it right now and are finishing tracks without trouble.
I don’t understand how this is a dilemma for anyone.
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Each multisample contains, potentially, hundreds and hundreds of unique samples. Not merely for each note, but for velocity values, etc.
I imagine we’ll get a user interface for editing multi samples, but it has to be thought through carefully.
I know I had some preconceived ideas about what I thought I wanted and was/am still a little disappointed about aspects of it, but ultimately, it’s been very fun to explore and I look forward to using it every day.
However, obviously it’s an expensive purchase, and you need to feel like it’s worth it. I think playing with it is a better way to get a sense of whether that’s the case or not than reading about it on the internet.
Many retailers have very good return policies. Failing that, in my experience, good gear doesn’t depreciate super rapidly and you can recoup most of your investment should you decide it’s not for you.
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The single machine has manual controls for crossfading and looping. Making these automatic, for the autosampling, isn’t trivial.
Of course Elektron has raised prices, but as I see it mostly (with the notable exception of Analog Heat + FX) not significantly beyond inflation (rounded up to €50).
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AH+FX: €1000 → €1200
DT II/DN II €1050 → € 1100
ST: €1000 → €1100
OT: €1450 → €1700 (over 8 years, acutally significantly less than inflation)
Model:Samples: €450 → €330
Source: Elektronaut News contain price at launch, Elektron Shop contains current prices
Hence my question: Do you imply it’s Elektron’s strategy to raise the prices once the product is finished?
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Ask them if you want. I don’t have the time or energy right now to argue, but my personal suspicion is the TV will go up in price down the road.
Appreciate it!! Glad to hear an update and fully understand the situation with the new platform. Very much looking forward to these updates, and in the meantime having tons of fun with the TV
I think that easter egg is about my thread 
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This is the brute force approach but it’s not the actual solution to the problem, which has existed for decades already. Taking really long multisamples is a great way to make a single instrument use up your entire project storage, so it’s better to make them like 5-10 seconds max and use looping.
Wav files can contain loop points in a metadata chunk and the multisample player on this and other samplers will loop/crossfade until you release the gate but those loop points need to be determined and attached to the wav metadata. You can do this by processing the multisamples in a DAW or sample robot or endless wav but MPC and maschine+ include automated loop point detection and an editing interface to let you prepare them on device from the auto sampler. That is what elektron should do, though it’s absolutely a complicated thing to implement well and so it’s probably not something we can expect quickly.
As @jm2c pointed out, there’s already a specific data format Tonverk uses for knowing to loop or not on multisamples, so my hope is that they’ll release an elektron-specific desktop app that can process auto samples and set up loop data for Tonverk’s multisamples in the box first (and hopefully convert other multisample formats into elmulti for use on Tonverk). From there it’s a less urgent problem to have Tonverk itself able to do this, but I know I’d like that to happen eventually.
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