Introducing Digitone

ctrl-all controls the selected parameter on all 4 internal synth tracks, not the midi tracks.

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Dammit, my retailer lists ā€Q2 2018ā€ for availability… that’s what, 2+ months from now?

96kHz huh? So does this get downsampled to 48kHz before exiting the DAC? Or can we actually output way above < 20kHz sounds with this one? :wink: With proper speakers, might be fun to upset some cats & dogs! Obviously the OB output is downsampled as its the usual 48kHz affair…

I’m guessing the 96k is just upsampled processing to keep aliasing at bay? To be downsampled to 48k before hitting the converters & outputs? Even then, the DN will never sound like a ā€vintageā€ FM synth, will be closer to ITB FM… Maybe I should hold onto my PreenFM2 a bit longer…

One thing I was wondering though, and this has annoyed me to no end in many software FM implementations, I hear distinctive parameter steps & steppyness in the DN videos whenever a param is adjusted. This is annoying to say the least, I hope any modulations/plocking does not exhibit such zipper-noises…

thats a good question indeed but dont think theyre gonna make it without steps. i guess its specially difficult with FM as slight chagnes in the modulalator have already a big impact in timbre.

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Yeah, that I know. I used to spend a bit of time tinkering with AAS Tassman (was it version 4? I forget) protoyping all kinds of perverse FM tone generators… heh, one of them had 13 operators! and even then I realized that you either need an insane control resolution with some smoothing applied, or you need 2 params for everything (Coarse/Fine). But yknow, I was hoping that since the peeps @ elektron are quite a boffiny bunch, they’d be able to suss it out better than a mere mortal :diddly:

Ok. So I’ve let the initial disappointment of the DO reveal settle down in my head and given the demos a listen. The thing sounds absolutely fantastic. I can see myself picking one up used down the road when they drop to $500-$600 perhaps. I just can’t justify the limitations (4 tracks, 8 voices, 4 MIDI tracks) at the almost $800 price point. For my needs, this would be more like a fun toy then a ā€œnecessityā€ in my studio. I don’t use FM sounds all that often, so when I do, I usually just default to FM8.

With all that said, I do really love the smaller size of the DT and DO. I really am holding out hope for a MM/MD hybrid in that format for the next device.

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One thing Ive wondered is what if you ctrl-all a filter cutoff but some are hp and some are low pass?

Like you couldnt sweep up the frequencies on all channels(if High passing) if some were on Low pass /notch etc.

Wouldn’t you just end up with a 100% filtered sound then? ie. silence

I think you have to p lock the cutoff value for those you want to remain unchanged. I think Simon mentioned this in cuckoo’s video when explaining control all.

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Not if you only filtered 60-70% up freqs

Thats a good tip if i ever buy into the newer boxes. :thup:

@Ess the playlist ā€œDigitone Audio Examplesā€ is gorgeous, I keep on listening to it and it’s a real pleasure.
I would really love to see each track credited, it’s a very impressive work, both showing the sounds of the machine and displaying the skill of the producer!
In fact, I don’t recall having already been that much charmed by mere ā€œaudio exemplesā€ of a new instrument.

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I think in one video Simon explains that the FM ratios are quantised for more musical results (if I understood correctly). I think this quantisation is what the ā€œzipper noiseā€ might be from. It seems to be part of the design. Also changing algorithms on the fly obviously must introduce some steppyness I guess.

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This, plus there’s no slide so plocking will naturally sound like a ā€˜jump’. I’m sure parameters like filter freq will be smooth as usual, especially with those hi-res encoders.

Absolutely.

In the other hand, there is a detune parameter to address this need to gradually change a frequency.
Way I see this box, it has not been designed to be the most complete FM synth (for this I think PreenFM 2 is really a beast) but a hands on, immediate FM synth, with which you can carve your sounds pretty quickly.
I consider myself a tourist when it comes to FM synthesis, I do believe Digitone is the tool I have been waiting for that will let me find my way in the galaxy of FM sounds.
This, and Chowning’s book, thx @t

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hmmm

I guess elektron will never add a ā€QUANTIZE/LIMIT RATIOSā€ checkbox to the config, checked by default, like they did with the ā€LEGACY FX SENDSā€ on the rytm? One can hope.

Anyways, still hoping that some LFO trickery will enable more in-between ratios…

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This kind of ā€œglitchinessā€ can no doubt be mitigated by subtle use of adsr amp envelope and the analog style post tone generator filter.

I’m going to be spending the next few weeks getting very familiar with every DN demo out there as I eagerly wait. I agree with @LyingDalai, I’ve never heard more enticing audio examples from Elektron before. It is a very beautiful sounding instrument that nails that hybrid sound I always feel like I’m chasing (proudly digital yet organic). I’m really into the sound in this demo right now.

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Considering how a ton of wavetables are very similar (if not directly taken) from modulated FM sounds & other complex tones, modulating the DN’s ā€œharmonicsā€ parameter while filtering the oscillators will get very similar results to some classic wavetable synths I think.

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I’m up for some kind of AMA deal if there’s interest. Always happy to talk nerdy. :slight_smile:

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