Also Simon was in the IRC chat and i didnt get the impression it wasnt a synth.
Al he said was that you cant layer sound and samples like on the rytm.
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He also said they are still working on the synth engine so cannot comment further on it.
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Exactly, its pretty safe to say it makes sounds as well.
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Itās a Casio RZ-1 for the 21st Century.
thatās a good thing btw.
Cute little box - as a RYTM owner itās of little interest to me ( nowā¦if the sampling was stereoā¦) but Iā, hoping we just get a proper, painless way to dump samples** across to the RYTM, seeing
as thatās the flagship drum machine still 
[ ** yes - SDS drop is great, but I still think Elektron should be doing a proper solution ]
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Personally, I like what we know about the new box so far. Even though my initial enthusiasm has waned a little due to not knowing about the synth capabilities, but Iām sure this wonāt be the first Elektron machine that at least at second glance doesnāt have enough tricks up itās sleeve to appeal to both Elektron veterans and newcomers alike. I can totally see a synth engine becoming available in a later OS revision, probably not as deep as on their full size/full price machines, but complex enough to suck new customers into the p-locking the s#hit out of sounds crazyness that we all love the exisiting machines for. And Iām fairly sure I wonāt be able to pass it over once itās available at my local music store. Same thing happened with the AH for me. And a few minutes after hooking it up to my setup I knew why.
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Yes tech drops in price rather quickly. Also they are a little bigger and with the price point they will probably sell more. So they have a bit more buying power, they can get components for less money then they did before.
Sorry, cannot elaborate. You will have to make do with the specifications currently available until we have further information.
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Rytm is awesome. get a sequencer on top and stop complaining.
Ughā¦ Weird but fair enoughā¦
Edit - Not asking for specifics of things that might change during development Just whether people are right to interpret the current phrasing as indicating this is has a sound engine onboard?
When I first read it I took it for granted as yes, but others have interpreted talk from vids etc as it being a ānoāā¦ Is this really something that canāt be cleared up?
Esp considering that it seems like it does have an engine judging from the official release phrasing and hardware case. Like if having an engine is a secret, it wasnāt kept very well or if it doesnāt, why let people get hopes up for more than is coming? Just annoying that even post-teaser something as huge as this is still unknown/ambiguousā¦
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whatās not proper about SDS Drop?
You mean something with Elektron branding?
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Dataline stated in several videos that they were very proud of the updated button/knobs mechanics which turned to be much more durable than those on previous machines. Why? Are the buttons and knobs on Analog gears āvulnerableā? I find those tiny tools robust and massive enough to trust them not being broken easily for many-many years 
While I donāt doubt that they have improved the mechanics a lot, this āmuch more durableā statement seems to me just a hype
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Yeah but they could simplify without slimming down the creative stuff - Amount of LFO, performance/scenes etc. And also increase other stuff alongside competitors. Sample ram/connectivity etc. Not just cuts across every aspect or staticā¦
Seems very odd to not even be able to confirm whether there are plans to give it some sort of synth engine without divulging anything more. Itās undecided I guess.
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My thoughts too. Seems like they showed it prematurely tbhā¦
Simplified workflow without sacrificing depth is really one thing Iām hoping for. E.g., Sampling should be possible with the fewest possible button presses. I love how the OP-1 works in that department.
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Could be similar to what they did with the +Drive on the A4. It was inside the machine all along, but the software only started supporting it a few months after launch. Personally, I like this approach, as long as the product does what it says on the box. Everything else is a bonus.
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Thing is that people donāt know how to interpret what it says on the box
Itās like if the A4 was called āA4 might or might not have a +drive inside of itā
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He also mentioned the knobs were higher resolution.
Itās cuts, plain and simple. Gets a bit like bubble land in here sometimes 3 lfo vs 1 isnāt gonna make a box less immediate.
Everyone loved the old boxes cos they had loads of depth, now everyone is saying they love the new stuff because they are less deep and have same kind of depth as competitor hardware that people used to slate in comparison to the old Elektron hardware??! Kind of funny to watch/readā¦
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I wonder if the new higher quality encoders will appear on newly produced A4/RYTM/AHās or if they will keep getting the lower quality encoders.