Alright. Newb here, head spinning with all the options having gone from M:S to DT2.
Question: What’s the slickest way to build a sample chain (usable by grid machine) from 16 samples on the DT2 itself. I know about the software available, but if there’s some way that’s relatively slick on the hardware itself, that would be cool.
I’m thinking 16 samples allocated to consecutive steps on a pattern and re-sample … but I can’t think of a slick way of loading those 16 samples to consecutive steps.
Had a look at trig mode -> preset pool, but that appears to be no use unless, perhaps, the 16 samples are also the first ones in the project.
Here’s an unrequested opinion from someone who’s had all the Elektron boxes at one point.
Pros:
Stereo samples - already opened up a huge world for me with my modular.
Longer samples - see above
Euclidean is fun
Chorus!
Cons:
Song button placement. Should have kept the pattern and track buttons in the same place and then put the song button above. I’m changing patterns a lot more often than songs.
Pattern changer - I miss the old way. The extra button press is annoying.
Needs a way to save samples to different folders
Mono sample recording is necessary. Just cause we have stereo doesn’t mean we always need to waste space on stereo samples.
Another way to do it is to load the 16 samples into the preset pool, load a new patten and assign samples to each consecutive track. Kind of takes the same amount of time though, so better to just do it with steps. Then you can lower the BPM to a degree that the longest sample needs to play out, and then resample 16 steps.
Yes … that’s exactly what I anticipate needing to do right now, manually selecting the sixteen trigs. I was hoping for something slicker using maybe trig mode → preset pool or something.
Or maybe a dedicated project with only those 16 samples in it, taking advantage of first 16 samples get allocated to tracks.
Not sure this would work, but if you would just start sampling from main outs, let it run, and go into the browser to preview samples trying to manualy hit each one at evenly spaced times? Would it work? Not at home to test at the moment but very interested.
Theoretically yes, if your timing is absolutely perfect. I think putting down sample-locked trigs on evenly spaced steps in the sequencer is the easiest and most hassle-free method. Furthermore, you can adjust each step with p-locks to fine-tune your new sample chain. So a bit more time for preparation is definitely worth it to have a more polished sample-chain in the end.
Bad idea IMO, as you would have to save each sample (+parameters) as a Preset beforehand.
What you can do is loading each of the 16 desired samples into each of the 16 tracks, set trig X for track X, and sample.
Better solution that uses one track only:
have all your samples following each other in the RAM, which is relatively easy if you want to make a chain out of a whle sample folder: select all + load them to proj get them right after each other.
set a RAMP LFO on sample slot: for an 8-sample chain I’d activate the 8 odd trigs, first trig plocked with MODE=TRIG, default MODE=HOLD. Other parameters would be SPD = 1, MULT=64 and DEPTH=8 I believe.
This way makes you sure you don’t have any overlap between samples. Adjust the tempo or plock AMP envelopes to get it right.
And this way you can make 64-sample chains
Yeah, I found out. I was misled by my tracks being identified as “preset n” somewhere but then discovered those presets were not in the pool. Presumably they were only stored in the pattern.
I will try what you suggest, thank you.
Meantime I have a project set up so track 1 is sample pool 1, with a trig on step 1, etc, tempo 30 bpm, fast release on amp page.
So all I need to do is load my samples as the first 16 samples in the project and I’m all set up to record the chain
Yes, Presets are all the tracks parameters + the source sample saved in the +Drive or in the Pool.
It’s external to the Patterns.
From what I’ve experimented, the hardest thing for my solution is to get the LFO parameters right.
But once someone drops the table here, no headache for setting this anymore ^^
I slogged through working it out for the m:s once. If I find myself translating that to the DT2 will post here. My m:s crib sheet was based on someone else’s work for the DT1 though … surely that’s still applicable ?
Fedex leaves packages outside in front of the door? That’s crazy.
Where i live the parcel services can give it to a neighbour but not just leave it somewhere outside for anyone to grab it.
I wish you good luck with this mess!
I guess so.
I’ve update my parameters to run with RAMP, which is more appropriate: it starts from the first sample you select, rise then fall back to the first sample, so you can spot the right values for the SPEED and DEPTH parameters more easily.
Uh…they aren’t supposed to operate that way. Even without sig, if no one is home, they are supposed to leave a “unable to deliver” card with location for pickup.
