Ping pong loop … does this technique provide a workaround for that ? I haven’t tried it, but it looks like it should.
EDIT: hmmm … I haven’t managed to apply this to DT2 yet
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I was all set to buy a DT2 when it was first announced. But the more I’ve read about it since release, the less sure I’ve become that the DT2 is going to work in my setup, at the moment at least.
I use long samples and loops a lot in my music, so the fact there aren’t (yet) crossfade options, snap to zero crossing and some way of adjusting slice position isn’t ideal. The lack of Overbridge support and bugs in Transfer haven’t helped (although both of those will be fixed soon, I am sure).
My hunch is that Elektron are well aware that crossfading, zero crossing and adjustable slice points would be a strong addition to the DT2.
And given this company has a stellar reputation in updating their devices’ firmware (even years after the device in question was launched), I am hopeful the DT2 of the future will have all these capabilities added plus probably others as well.
If that’s not the case then no problem, the DT2 will still be a great machine but for my workflow a Push 3 using Simpler will be better.
I’ve looked into using an OT for my purposes but it’s not for me. Push 3 with Simpler is a pretty awesome polyphonic sampler and beat slicer. If DT2 could get close to what I can do on a Push (not expecting polyphonic playback, to be clear) I would buy it in a heartbeat.
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Interestingly, Push 3 is seeming like a better option for me as well even though I’m tempted by the DT2. The thing I find most concerning about Elektron is their lack of development with regards to the midi machines.
After all these years, they’ve failed to implement things as simple as retrigs for the midi machines. There’s no arpeggiator that has been implemented and no midi machines specifically created to provide additional sequencing/modulation for other tracks and master FX.
These are all simple, obvious improvements that have not been implemented after all these years.
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I’d prefer a PIPO loop feature than a technique with an lfo, because otherwise it can’t match sample/slice length, depending on pitch.
PIPO loop is usefull for slices in general, when it reach the end it doesn’t stop or loop to the beginning, it plays reversed with clicks. Granular stuff also…
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But you know that a big part of what you are complaining about already exist in the Elektron line-up, it’s called the Octatrack. 
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Slices points and zero-crossing are definetely doable. Imho crossfade will never happen.
I’d rather wait a totally new Elektron sampler.
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Yes. I was actually considering one, but I feel that it is overpriced at $1599 and I don’t want to buy a used one.
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I’ve been surprised by how good Simpler is when controlled from the Push. It really does feel like a great hardware sampler.
I use Push in controller mode and even thought it’s right next to my computer I never look at the computer monitor. The experience is like using an amazing updated version of an Akai S5000 sampler with way more added functions.
TBH I’d buy a Push simply for the sampler functionality alone, I love it. Only downside is the need to record audio into an audio track then convert to Simpler rather than record straight into Simpler. But that’s a simple workaround that takes seconds, and once the audio is in Simpler you can do so much with it.
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My beloved Push purchase will have to wait until they implement bpm per scene, and warp marker creation, and manipulation via its knobs and on that day tears will rain from the sky…
But I believe Elektron were just a little shy of realizing just how important proper sample slicing is on the Digitakt 2 and I believe they will address this, I just hope it’s before I pull all my hair out because it’s an otherwise stunning ‘slice’ of a beat machine… I’m almost offended by how much more I like it than the original DT which I 
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Planning on scooping a DTII after the next update comes, very excited! I anticipate that it will bring some good bug fixes and tweaks.
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The DTII is my favorite machine. It is amazing. It makes me to do more music (not necessarily better unfortunately as I suck at producing)
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Same, not a pro here, but if you can’t do a track on the DT, I guess it’s not the tool to blame. I encourage you to check what mistabishi is puting out with the Electribe 2 that doesn’t even have microtiming. Or pattern scaling.
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I wanted to do this as well, but realized my DTII wasn’t saving the trig page parameters. Are you getting the same bug I’m experiencing? I linked to the post below
Could you elaborate ?
Didn’t check, but just a thought :
Trig parameters are part of pattern, not track sound / preset / kit.
So depending on how you reload/save, it may stay the same…
Maybe not a bug…
I feel like the DT2 has a particular sound even though it is a sampler. It has that hi-end boost everyone knows about and I’m wondering if this is what makes it sound so precise to me.
It sounds a lot different from something like an Akai MPC 3000 with hi-hats and snares. There’s kind of like a tingy sound in the transients. Does the master overdrive do anything interesting to this? I really think the DT would benefit from a clipper due to this quality. You could get really punchy sounds by pushing this into a clipper I bet.
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Easy now. My heart can only take so much.
Are you using amp reset toggle? I’ve had no trouble at all removing any clicks with a slight bit of attack and release.
This is after years using a Rytm who’s amp envelope does not reset, making it very hard to tune to get rid of clicks.
The only time I get unwanted clicks is with sample looping since there is no crossfade. It’s still more than usable.
Crossfade wouldn’t really be useful in the use case you described. It’s more useful when looping samples.
When you are trigger slices in a grid mode, you really just want to “crossfade” in/out from silence. Luckily the amp envelope exists for this.
I don’t need 16 one shots but I think suggesting that’s all the DT2 amounts to is a bad assessment.
I’ve been using:
1-6 as one-shots.
7-8 as single cycle bass or lead sounds
9-12 as longer samples recording from external gear. Sometimes 8+ bars played in full, sometimes chopped up into something new.
13-16 as midi tracks driving external gear.
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Yeah. I’m driving the endorphin.es ground control with the digitakt II. I’d like to be able to load a MIDI preset with a saved NOTE value that corresponds to each specific gate/trigger output on the ground control.
For example,
if I load “GC_Gate1” preset - The trig menu on DTII will always have C1 tied to that preset.
Or if I load, “GC_Gate2” preset - The trig menu on DTII will always have C#1 tied to that preset.
So on, and so forth.
It’s rather tedious having to create MIDI tracks corresponding to each gate output every time I want to interact with the ground control. Does that make sense?
I think you’d also need to load a pattern for that. These values are usually related to pattern with Elektron devices. Presets or Sounds don’t change these parameters.
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Digitakt 2 is on sale at sounds easy in Australia for $1700 instead of $1850 if anyone is looking.
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Tempted BIG TIME
Edit: sold my DT1 2 weeks before the last update (slices) to concentrate on the OT. Love the OT for my use case but have to say a DT2 would be a lot of fun 
Even eyeing a DT1 to be honest
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