Infinite note length not possible?

Hi everyone,

I’ve been spending the last few days exploring my Elektron Tonverk, and one of the first things I tried to do was set up an infinite note (one that keeps playing without retriggering), which I haven’t been able to achieve.

As far as I can tell, the note length (length) can only be set up to a maximum of 128 steps. I’d expect to be able to set an infinite note, as is possible on other Elektron sequencers.

This feels especially odd considering the sequencer itself can go up to 256 steps.

Setting the release to maximum is not an option for me.

On other Elektron devices, what I usually do is combine an infinite note with trig conditions (for example, to make it play only on the first cycle), but here I can’t even get to that point since infinite note length isn’t available.

Is there any way to achieve a truly infinite note in this case?

Also, is there any official channel where feature requests like this can be submitted? I consider this quite a fundamental feature.

Thanks!

You need to adjust your amp envelopes.

Set your loop mode to ‘sustain’ (in func + trig menu), and set your amp envelope to have an infinite release.

You can also do this with wavefinder without having to set the loop mode.

Loop-mode as far as I know is required if you’re playing samples that will eventually end and you want the sample to play after you release the note.

Hi, thanks for your suggestion!

I do have the amp envelope set to ADSR mode, as you mentioned. However, setting the release to maximum isn’t really an option for me. On Elektron devices, the release isn’t meant to act as a “gate” that lasts infinitely. On other Elektron sequencers, you could select an infinite note length directly, but on the Twerk the maximum is still 128 steps.

Setting the release to maximum with a polyphonic introduces unwanted effects, so it doesn’t achieve the sustained effect I’m looking for. What I want is a note that truly holds indefinitely, not just a long release.

Thanks again for your input!

Using a length of 17 (if page length is 16) and monophonic legato could be an option. If it‘s monophonic :wink:

Thanks for your suggestion!
Some alternatives are coming up slowly, though of course it would have been ideal to do it directly like on other Elektron sequencers.
I really appreciate your input.

Have you managed to do this? I tried loop sustain, fwd loop, infinite release and cond. 1st, so it won’t retrigger the note as pattern loops, but no luck, it just doesn’t loop…

No, unfortunately I didn’t manage to do it the same way as with other Elektron boxes!

How do you do it? This is really weird, on DT I could loop it, but no crossfades meant loops we’re dodgy, on TV I have crossfades but no way to hold it long enough to loop lol.

can you set amp/decay to max, then set trig condition to 1st. Then it will play on the first loop, and not re-trigger on subsequent.

I’ve set it to max (dec&rel to INF, sus to max-127), but unless the trig is holding it won’t loop, it just plays it once, as if it would be in the FWD play mode.

Fn+TRIG to enter Setup and change LOOP MODE from SUST to CONT

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Loop Mode (infinite notes) is only available in Single Player or Single Sampler (I can’t remember the name), but not in Grainer, which was what I mainly wanted it for, as it makes a lot of sense to have infinite notes with granular synthesis. It’s not available in Wavefinder or Multiplayer, either.

Thanks for the suggestions!

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I swear I’ve tried this and somehow didn’t work, but now it does. I’ve probably screwed some other setting at the time - still finding my way around TV, since I’ve only had it for a few hours :slight_smile: Thanks!

It would certainly make a lot of sense doing this with grainer, I primary need this for textures and pads. Maybe some day.
Anyway, fun device this TV is. Especially wavefinder and effects.

Indeed.

REL = INF seems to work for Subtracks
Grainer
Wavefinder

REL=INF doesn’t work for Multi Player, even with multis having loop points.

Caveats with REL = INF : not possible to mute ! :smile:
Long to do list !

I’d want LEN = 256 AND INF.
They said only 1 value is available (Already 127 values)

I really don’t care about LEN values 3.38, 3.63, and I think it would be 1 million times better not having them compared to 256 or INF…

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